Re: Fwd: Re: grub-customizer

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:00:04 +0200
Per Øyvind Karlsen <[email protected]> wrote:

> > > Notice that the reason behind this list was that the om-cooker list is
> > > censored, where I myself are unable to post to the list because of this.
> > > So given that we really don't like censorship of mailing lists and that
> > we
> > > need free communication, this list was created to ensure this.
> > Your definition of censorship is a punch in the face of all those who
> > experience(d) real censorship. What you critic is that the openmandriva
> > list is
> > moderated to rules you do not like or want to follow.
> 
> I beg your pardon?
> 
> What specific rules are those? 
http://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Cooker#Communication_guidelines

as you do know as i explicitly hinted you on irc.

> How did I violate these?
actually I did not even claim this above. I just claimed you would not like
those and most possible do not want to follow, as you told me on irc. 

> And when was they decided on?
omv cooker meeting. If you would be a bit less selectively reading this channel,
you might even have spotted some suggestions about this. I won't crawl the logs
for you, though.
 
> What I've been censored for is being critical towards the association,
> their behaviour and action, something which I'm surely not alone on.
As above. Using censorship and moderation in the same meaning seems to be very
abusive to me. Also you are unable to prove let alone convince me that this
would be the reason of you beeing moderated.

> Last time you claimed that I had been harazzing people, for which I really
> have to wonder about exactly *who* I've been harazzed and in what way.
Who do you mean with "you"? As far as I know my last statement on this was that
one:
23:40*<arisel> proyvind: *g* I don't know what'S happened between you and others
               in the past. But I totally could agree that you are perceived as
               harrassing. You're just not naming nicely what bothers you..
               always talking about stuff to be crap if you don't agree, and
               claiming sabotage everywhere is maybe the way xou are perceived
               by many. I don't really know the root of this, so I don't think
               I'm there to
23:40 <arisel> judge.

And "perceived as harrassing" you could see in several archives by yourself.


Just stop trying to twist my words.


	Jochen