Re: [OM Cooker] Project state, future and the inevitable doom
Blackcrack <[email protected]> Thu, 23 Jul 2015 06:05:30 +0200
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070608070406020602010000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi David, i be also since 1999 on Mandrake on an german Linuxcommunity with the name "GPL Linux Forum" and how you can see on my Homepage (blackysgate.de) on the Page Linux, want i invite you to the mailinglist from Per Oryvin on zarb.org -> Cooker at zarb.org <[email protected]> Per was former the Projectleader of Mandriva and was circumvent from=20 frace peoples like Rafa and his comrades :\ How ever, i want invite you to Per's Mailinglist . https://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/User:Blackcrack best regards Blacky Am 22.07.2015 um 23:01 schrieb David Walser: > Hello, > > I have been a member of the Mandrake community and a contributor since = 2001 (user since 1999). As some of you may know, I've concentrated my ef= forts on Mageia for the past few years, as that's what I chose to use. I= don't have much in the way of insights into the inner workings of the Op= enMandriva Association. So, feel free to take what I say with as large a= grain of salt as you would like. > > I can understand how some would find some of what Per =C3=98yvind said = as incendiary (I myself could have done without the anti-Mageia rhetoric)= , but he has raised some legitimate concerns about OpenMandriva's finance= s, and just banishing him from the mailing list is not going to make thos= e concerns go away. I understand that money can be a touchy subject. Th= e recent example of Jonathan Riddell and the missing Ubuntu donations is = one recent example that's gotten a lot of press and attention in the open= source community. However, as a community association, the community ha= s a right to know what's going on with the finances, and as a legally reg= istered association, the association probably has some obligation to prov= ide some of that information. > > Basically there's two possibilities. One is that the financial situati= on is fine and Per =C3=98yvind is full of it. If that's the case, and th= ose with access to the information can share enough detailed information = to show that, then the concerns can go away. The other possibility is th= at the situation truly is as dire as he said. If that's the case, again,= the community has a right to know. I'm sure they would also like to kno= w if the association has a plan to remedy the situation, if any steps are= already in progress, and if there is anything that they can do to help. > > As to the naming and trademark situation, it is regrettable that the ch= oice was made to make use of Mandriva's trademarks and that some of the w= orst fears about that have been realized, with Mandriva's bankruptcy and = the uncertain ownership situation of the trademarks. It would certainly = be the only responsible decision to cease use of the Mandriva name. I do= n't know that using the Mandrake name is very wise either, given the lega= l history there. Hopefully the community can come to a consensus on a ne= w name or names that the whole community can rally behind. > > I really hope that things can be patched up within your community with = the long-standing and productive contributors, the newer members of the c= ommunity, ROSA, and anyone else with an interest in the project. I wish = you the best in your future endeavors. > _______________________________________________ > OM-Cooker mailing list > [email protected] > http://ml.openmandriva.org/listinfo.cgi/om-cooker-openmandriva.org --------------070608070406020602010000 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf= -8"> </head> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"> Hi David,<br> <br> i be also since 1999 on Mandrake on an german Linuxcommunity<br> with the name "GPL Linux Forum"<br> and how you can see on my Homepage (blackysgate.de) <br> on the Page Linux, want i invite you to the mailinglist from Per Oryvin<br> on zarb.org -> Cooker at zarb.org=C2=A0 <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-r= fc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a><br> Per was former the Projectleader of Mandriva and was circumvent from frace peoples=C2=A0 <br> like Rafa and his comrades :\ <br> How ever, i want invite you to Per's Mailinglist .<br> <br> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://wiki.openmandriva.= org/en/User:Blackcrack">https://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/User:Blackcrack<= /a><br> <br> best regards<br> Blacky<br> <br> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.07.2015 um 23:01 schrieb David Walser:<br> </div> <blockquote class=3D" cite" id=3D"mid_1535346414_754553_1437598904525_JavaMail_yahoo_mail_yahoo= _com" cite=3D"mid:[email protected]= " type=3D"cite"> <pre wrap=3D"">Hello, I have been a member of the Mandrake community and a contributor since 20= 01 (user since 1999). As some of you may know, I've concentrated my effo= rts on Mageia for the past few years, as that's what I chose to use. I d= on't have much in the way of insights into the inner workings of the Open= Mandriva Association. So, feel free to take what I say with as large a g= rain of salt as you would like. I can understand how some would find some of what Per =C3=98yvind said as= incendiary (I myself could have done without the anti-Mageia rhetoric), = but he has raised some legitimate concerns about OpenMandriva's finances,= and just banishing him from the mailing list is not going to make those = concerns go away. I understand that money can be a touchy subject. The = recent example of Jonathan Riddell and the missing Ubuntu donations is on= e recent example that's gotten a lot of press and attention in the open s= ource community. However, as a community association, the community has = a right to know what's going on with the finances, and as a legally regis= tered association, the association probably has some obligation to provid= e some of that information. Basically there's two possibilities. One is that the financial situation= is fine and Per =C3=98yvind is full of it. If that's the case, and thos= e with access to the information can share enough detailed information to= show that, then the concerns can go away. The other possibility is that= the situation truly is as dire as he said. If that's the case, again, t= he community has a right to know. I'm sure they would also like to know = if the association has a plan to remedy the situation, if any steps are a= lready in progress, and if there is anything that they can do to help. As to the naming and trademark situation, it is regrettable that the choi= ce was made to make use of Mandriva's trademarks and that some of the wor= st fears about that have been realized, with Mandriva's bankruptcy and th= e uncertain ownership situation of the trademarks. It would certainly be= the only responsible decision to cease use of the Mandriva name. I don'= t know that using the Mandrake name is very wise either, given the legal = history there. Hopefully the community can come to a consensus on a new = name or names that the whole community can rally behind. I really hope that things can be patched up within your community with th= e long-standing and productive contributors, the newer members of the com= munity, ROSA, and anyone else with an interest in the project. I wish yo= u the best in your future endeavors. _______________________________________________ OM-Cooker mailing list <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= driva.org">[email protected]</a> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://ml.openmandriva.org/lis= tinfo.cgi/om-cooker-openmandriva.org">http://ml.openmandriva.org/listinfo= .cgi/om-cooker-openmandriva.org</a></pre> </blockquote> <br> <br> </body> </html> --------------070608070406020602010000--