Re: About Mandriva page

Marek Laane wrote:
> neljapäev, 29. oktoober 2009 00:54:38 kirjutas Mario Blättermann:
>   
>> Am Donnerstag, den 29.10.2009, 00:41 +0200 schrieb Marek Laane:
>>     
>>> It seems we had some misunderstanding. The system there seems to be
>>> roughly same as in Mandriva or KDE. The point I raised was that changes
>>> in source code which you could see in template (POT) were *NOT* merged in
>>> translation files (PO) and you had to make manually "msgfmt -U
>>> language.po template.pot".
>>>       
>> Sorry, I've almost no experience with Mandriva translations. For now, I
>> was only working on translating the rpm-summary-main into German.
>>
>> As far as I understand it, Mandriva provides normally merged po files in
>> the statistics, which contains the current changes in source code. And
>> the Estonian file doesn't contain changes, which are available from the
>> pot file. But does this mean, that these changes will be also applied in
>> SVN? Or are the provided (merged) po files dummy files which doesn't
>> affect the SVN content?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mario
>>
>>     
>
> AFAIK statistics page is just a frontend and not very relevant to real 
> translation, only reference tool (as statistics always is :.-) ). Real work 
> happens in SVN (or git or cvs or whatever), anyway, be it Mandriva or GNOME or 
> KDE or whatever.
> Normally all works as it should be: some developer makes changes in the source 
> code->changes are extracted and put into template (POT)->translation files 
> (PO) are updated accordingly, introducing new untranslated strings, marking 
> changed strings fuzzy etc.
> But in the case the process was broken and last step, i.e synchronization of 
> template and translation files didn't happen, whatever the reason was.
>
> Marek Laane
> Estonian translator
>   
Why on earth do you still discuss this? If you want statistics after
pulling an update of your local Subversion archive, use KBabel or
Lokalize. Create a project, add the directories and presto, instant
statistics. I'm using KBabel to translate both Mandriva and
OpenOffice.org and I can't really see the problem. Using the status
pages offered by e.g kiev.ua as the only pointer is plain amateurish and
to be honest, working backwards and upside down. Relying on automatic
tasks only isn't that clever either, using command line tools should be
second  to breathing for most of you. But I do really wish they would
restructure the archive in a way similar to,

http://svn.skolelinux.org/websvn/listing.php?repname=skolelinux&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fi18n%2Fopenoffice%2F#_trunk_i18n_openoffice_


Pulling statistics from this one in e.g Kbabel is like a dream compared
to the current setup I'm faced with here.

- Olav.