Re: Hello / Transifex !

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Wolfgang Bornath <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2011/2/15 Jean-Philippe Braun <jpbraun-4qZELD6FgxhWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>:
>> Hello,
>>
>> It seems that you can do this with the transifex client : see
>> http://help.transifex.net/user-guide/client/client-0.4.html
>>
>> It allows you to work on po files locally (online or offline) and then
>> push them back to the transifex server
>
> As we found out during tests and discussed at Fosdem the current
> transifex has problems to work together with svn. Here some excerpts
> from an irc meeting last week:
>
> 18:38:05 <Jehane> we have said that transifex can not commit in svn in
> the way we want to work
> 18:38:51 <misc> yup
> 18:39:08 <Jehane> 'cause we are planning to have proofread of the
> string before commit
> 18:39:26 <misc> so the idea is to use transifex as a staging area
> 18:39:44 <Jehane> and it's not possible to have a "to proofread"
> status in transifex (as far as I know)
> 18:40:03 <misc> let's say that a developper create a shiny new
> software that display duck
> 18:40:23 <misc> so he create the software, tx fetch the .po
> 18:40:42 <TeaAge> what about using transifex for translation and after
> string freeze the commiiter have to push the .po to svn manually
> 18:40:44 <TeaAge> ?
> 18:40:51 <misc> TeaAge: that's what we proposed, yes
> 18:41:38 <misc> so translators send their work in progress on transifex
> 18:42:05 <misc> once the .po is ready ie have been proofread, either
> someone from the team commit the .po ( using tx-client )
> 18:42:16 <misc> or the developpers fetch it ( usig tx-client again )
> ...
> 18:43:53 <misc> Jehane: tx do not use svn
> 18:44:11 <misc> tx store the .po in a postgresql databse
> 18:44:31 <misc> ( or anything supported by the django framework, ie
> mysql/sqlite/oracle/pgsql )
> 18:44:55 <misc> the previous version was using svn to store
> everything, but it was inflexible, IIRC
> 18:45:38 <Jehane> ok; so how tx is updating .po files when they are
> updated in the source repository ? (news strings, etc)
> 18:45:49 <misc> Jehane: it depends
> 18:46:25 <misc> either it can fetch them using tx-client, or people
> can update by hand ( ie upload using the web )
> .....
> <misc> #info tx do not preserve comment and history
> Explanation:
> <Jerzy> each pot files stars with comments, like: some descrpitive
> title, translators and so on. It is generic.
> 18:52:50 <Jerzy> after editing some entries are added by translators
> (their names, email, year)
> 18:53:31 <Jerzy> tx reverts all comments to its generic form
> 18:53:48 <Jerzy> from pot file
> 18:54:04 <misc> mhh, it doesn't simply add the information as given by
> the date and username ?
> 18:54:06 <Jerzy> history of translators is lost

Can you ask guys to Xfce developers? They set up a Transifex server
more than a year ago and it is working fine, and I can download the
latest .po files with all the top comments unchanged. Also I find hard
to believe that it doesn't work with SVN since it was originally
designed to allow translators to send their work to a miriad of source
code managers including SVN, Git, CVS and Mercurial:
http://trac.transifex.org/

Bye