Re: [engineering] Fwd: TEST Project - Mandriva 2011 Translation on Transifex.net

Hi Jeff,

I mean no harm, but there's nothing worst than a bad translation, and it's what 
exactly Google does! You need people to validate those automatic translations 
and you cannot launch an automatic translation to a file with thousand of 
strings if you aren't able to validate them in time (for the release or next 
package build). And Transifex does a better job with the automatic translation 
because it uses a translation memory made of all the strings already translated.
So far: Tx 1 - 0 Google Translate

When came to this, better let the original string, or the untranslated version, 
than propose to the end user a confuse or unclear translated interface.

Just my 2 cents opinion.

 Best regards,
Florin Catalin RUSSEN
Mandriva Romanian Translation Team



----- Original Message ----
> From: Jeff Johnson <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: cooker-i18n-4qZELD6FgxheH41UXmfQsti2O/[email protected]; engineering-4qZELD6FgxhWk0Htik3J/[email protected]
> Sent: Wed, 13 April, 2011 16:08:06
> Subject: Re: [engineering] Fwd: [i18n] TEST Project - Mandriva 2011 Translation 
>on Transifex.net
> 
> Hi --
> 
> My name is Jeff Johnson and I used to do a fair amount of
> the  infrastructure and setup for I18n while @redhat, particularly
> for *.rpm  package translations as well as coordinating the
> build <-> translation  process work flows.
> 
> I'm still very interested in the issues of how  packaging <-> translation
> workflows interact. Transifex is  wonderful.
> 
> Meannhile, do you know about PEPIPOPUM?
> 
> Its a small  amount of PHP to take PO files and send them through Google  
>Translate.
> 
> While Google Translate is by no means perfect, its a huge step  towards 
getting
> an otherwise difficult problem of translation teams keeping  up
> with msgstr's in PO files for an ever increasing number of locales  with
> decreasing volunteer activity jump started.
> 
> There's a test server  at
>     http://eastam.rpm5.org/pepipopum
> if you would like to  try-and-see. The original
> site is here
>     http://pepipopum.dixo.net/
> 
> The i18n guy  @rpm5.org
>     Göran Uddeborg   <goeran @  rpm5.org>
> was impressed enough that he was going to start a project  to
> improve the automation of getting PO files translated with
> Google  Translate: the PO file parser in the PEPIPOPUM PHP
> is rather primitive, but  works fine as proof-of-concept.
> 
> hth
> 
> 73 de Jeff
> 
> On Apr 13,  2011, at 9:02 AM, Eugeni Dodonov wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --------  Original Message --------
> > Subject: [i18n] TEST Project - Mandriva 2011  Translation on Transifex.net
> > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:48:10 +0100  (BST)
> > From: Catalin Florin RUSSEN <cfrussen-/[email protected]>
> >  Reply-To: [email protected],Catalin  Florin RUSSEN
> > <cfrussen-/[email protected]>
> > To: cooker-i18n-4qZELD6FgxheH41UXmfQsti2O/[email protected]
> > 
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > I've stared the Mandriva Linux 2011  translation project on Transifex.net
> > initially to help the Romanian team  work in a collaborative way.
> > 
> > To my surprise I've received  requests for other teams too. Then I've asked
> > Mandriva officials and  I've got their permission to propose this test
> > project to
> > other  translation teams too.
> > 
> > So, here's the direct link: https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/MDL2011/
> > 
> > As you may  know, Transifex will be installed in the near future on
> >  Mandriva's
> > servers for the collaborative translation platform.
> >  But if you want to give Transifex a try, please use this test project as
> >  "sand
> > box".
> > 
> > I suggest that team leaders request the  creation of a team and then add the
> > members. For the moment all files  translated there need to be committed
> > manually
> > on the SVN  server, by those of you with the right authorization.
> > Note that when you  download a .po file from Transifex.net its header is
> > reset to
> > a  standard one. This issue is already known, so you'll have to update it
> >  manually before committing the file.
> > 
> > Do not hesitate to report  here any problem you encounter to help Mandriva's
> > webteam implement  Transifext right from the first try.
> > 
> > I'll be answering for any  question regarding Transifex.net usage.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> >  Florin Catalin RUSSEN
> > Romanian Translation Team - lead
> 
>