Re: [Security Firewall] firewall

I totally agree with you Amaury, but I think that if no one does a free 
iso or a esasy urmpi way to install MNF2 in a Mandriva base system, (or 
an apt MNF for Debian), MNF will fall in a forgotten great product.

It need a great user base to spread and test it, like linux, (or easy 
install and pirated software ... ¿windows, office? :-P ).

How many people is going to test the iso downloading it from this list? 
50, 100?. Thinks Mandriva that MNF2 can grow in market with firewall1, 
cisco, symantec, ca, ipcop, coyote, sonicwall, hand made shorewall 
firewalls, etc, etc, etc ....? (without the key of a growing community 
pushing it up).

Sorry, but I dont want to waste my time testing a ISO for privileged 
people of a mailing list. I think I'd better go to help shorewall, 
squid, openswan developers to do their great work.

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Amaury Amblard-Ladurantie wrote:

>>I know i'm coming in late and without context to this discussion, but
>>this seems a very strange sentiment to me.  When you work on free
>>software, you need to /expect others to make money out of your work/.
>>
>>Did Linus Torvalds or Alan Cox get any compensation out of MNF1 for
>>their work on the Linux kernel?  Did Tom Eastep get paid from MNF1's
>>coffers for inventing Shorewall?
>>
>>If Mandriva has a problem with this, they need to get out of the free
>>software industry.
>>    
>>
>
>Mandriva develops free software (MNF frontend & backend, drakx and so on).
>However, as Mandriva pays people to develop free software, they need to make 
>money, or they won't be able to pay these developers, and no more free 
>software will be produced by Mandriva, and everyone loses.
>
>The solution Mandriva chose consists in restricting the distribution of the 
>Mandriva brand, hence you cannot re-distribute the MNF ISO without paying for 
>it. You are welcome, however, to take all the software found on the ISO, make 
>your own ISO and distribute them freely. It is in many aspects similar to 
>OpenBSD's policy, and I hardly see any conflict with the "free software 
>spirit".
>
>Besides, as Deush's last email stated, those who contributed to the MNF will 
>get free access to the MNF ISO if they want. Even if I would prefer the MNF 
>ISO to be freely available to anyone, I don't find Mandriva's politic 
>outrageous.
>
>Amaury (former MNF contributor)
>  
>

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