Re: [Security Firewall] Florins Firewall

"Repairman" <[email protected]> Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:25:55 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.linux.mandrake.security.firewall
Message-ID <[email protected]>
> I still don't get it.  Not once was MNF ever to be given away for  
> free.  SNF wasn't, MNF8.2 wasn't, what made everyone think that MNF2  
> was any different.

That's right, it never was "free", but at least I could download it, test & try it and create solutions for my customers (in my case, I've sold 6 (*)copies of MNF), but I've also sold more copies of ClarkConnect because I can do more with it. (* Sold by recommendation, and then I support it. I even have my own mirror of the Mandrake/Mandriva ftp site to do this, and more, with.)

> We haven't abandoned anything, we haven't done anything sneaky, we  
> haven't robbed you of anything.  We did exactly what we set out to do  
> which was to create an enterprise firewall product.  Nothing has  
> changed on our end.  Your perception of things seems to have changed  
> over time, but I don't understand why.

Yes you did abandon something. The way of doing business that got you back on your feet. AKA The "Microsoft Route". Then robbed us of the fath in a business and it's products.

> Did I miss something?  Was everyone told that MNF2 was supposed to be  
> free when the betas started rolling and then we snatched it away and  
> went back on our word?

No, not free. Just available (as before) for download to see if it works (which there is no proof of, therefore I'm not going to spend hundreds of dollars to find out).

But....  daouda-4qZELD6FgxhWk0Htik3J/[email protected] Announced on this list that...

"Yes, after discussions with management, we decide to make the iso
available for contributors, especially those on this list. 
A list of MNF contributors/testers/lurkers will be set up by Florin [if
he agrees] and a VIP club membership will be given to these
contributors in order to download the MNF2 iso. Just drop a mail to
Florin with your name and email in body.
Florin are you ok with this plan ?"

Which I did send a message to Florin, but nothing has come of it so far. So the only chance that I'll have a copy of MNF2 to test and work with is questionable.
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