Re: Owl future

Simon Baker <[email protected]> Fri, 2 Jan 2015 16:27:29 +0000
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> > Let's look at this differently: what was the value of Owl so far?

Small, simple, elegant, lean.

As close to the bsd's as was reasonable.

Virtualization support was a pleasant bonus, but not expected.

> > Finally, as to the future of Owl itself, we need to know why we'd be
> > continuing to put effort into Owl.  Do we have more new approaches to
> > demo to others in this way, or would we be playing catch-up?  I think it
> > might be mostly the latter.

Imho, without embracing kvm, and therefore taking on that clusterfuck of a
security model, you cannot compete with red hat et al in the enterprise
space.  That said, I don't believe that was ever your intention.  For me,
Owl is turning in to an heirloom linux.  And, that is not a bad goal.

Keep it small, keep it safe, and keep it tidy.

S.

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<p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
&gt; &gt; Let&#39;s look at this differently: what was the value of Owl so =
far?</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Small, simple, elegant, lean.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">As close to the bsd&#39;s as was reasonable.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Virtualization support was a pleasant bonus, but not expecte=
d.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">&gt; &gt; Finally, as to the future of Owl itself, we need t=
o know why we&#39;d be<br>
&gt; &gt; continuing to put effort into Owl.=C2=A0 Do we have more new appr=
oaches to<br>
&gt; &gt; demo to others in this way, or would we be playing catch-up?=C2=
=A0 I think it<br>
&gt; &gt; might be mostly the latter.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Imho, without embracing kvm, and therefore taking on that cl=
usterfuck of a security model, you cannot compete with red hat et al in the=
 enterprise space.=C2=A0 That said, I don&#39;t believe that was ever your =
intention.=C2=A0 For me, Owl is turning in to an heirloom linux.=C2=A0 And,=
 that is not a bad goal.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Keep it small, keep it safe, and keep it tidy.=C2=A0 </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">S.<br><br></p>

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