Re: Re: Gc-linux-devel digest, Vol 1 #88 - 1 msg

On Wednesday 25 August 2004 01:02, Michael Steil wrote:
> > the whole point is that tools to do exactly this _do exist already_.
> > noone needs linux to do this.
> 
> With all these features (SMB, FTP etc.) included?

no, since these features are irrelevant to a pirate or anyone else who
wants an image of his dvd (there _are_ legitimate uses of that afterall,
and making an image alone isnt piracy at all, distributing the image is).

look at http://membres.lycos.fr/ooze/NGC/ for example - with a tool like
this, why the hell would you bother using linux for making an image? and
with http://www.sadistech.com/gcmtool/ (look! a sourceforge project!),
why would you be waiting for a filesystem driver when this tool can do
everything needed, easier than it could ever be using linux?

> But they do ban atomic bombs, because they can be used for killing 
> *only*.
> There is *no* use for the drivers other than reading and copying games.

thats nonsence. what if i want to examine the contents of a game in order
to reverse engineer them? what if i want to create a mediaplayer to play
those movies on my MGS discs? what about serving the dvd contents to my
pc so i can use them with the emulator i am writing? what about running
executeables from retail games from within linux? i'm sure i could make
this list a lot longer, and i'm sure other people have other uses too.
 
> Please do not misunderstand me: I appreciate the work that has been 
> done, but the only possible use is piracy, unless we find a way to 
> burn/press our own DVD. But even in this case, we would only need the 
> device driver, not the filesystem driver, as we could use ISO9660 or 
> UDF instead.

i personally think its just funny how people suddenly go bezerk when 
a certain thing is mildly related to piracy. i find it even more amusing
that the same people seem to think that pirates are to stupid to write
their own ripping software (or their own loaders for that matter). 
and at the same time, they release MAME for everyone to play all the
huge amount of arcade roms they legally own, alright :=P especially the
latter is *much* more questionable than a filesystem driver could ever
be, and denying that the primary use of MAME is playing pirated roms is
just equally pathetic as this whole filesystem dicsussion.

gpz




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