Re: Mac Big sur

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 8:58 PM, Robert Krawitz <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 2/27/21 9:33 PM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Robert Krawitz <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2/27/21 2:04 PM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Robert Krawitz <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/27/21 12:41 PM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Matt Broughton <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Robert Krawitz <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2/27/21 11:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>>>>>> More joy as the plot thickens.  I have tested the Canon Pro9000 Mk II and the Epson XP-15000
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> identical results.  The printer will print as long as you don't get the Printer Features to
>>>>>>>>> show.
>>>>>>>>> Once you get the Printer Features to show, you can't go back and display the other items in the
>>>>>>>>> pop-up menu such as Layout, Cover Page, Paper Feed, etc. The biggest problem is that it won't
>>>>>>>>> print!!  The whole print window just freezes.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Another problem.  Any changes to the PPD defaults  will not be shown in the Print window.
>>>>>>>>>  The PPDs
>>>>>>>>> show the the new Defaults, but the Print window does not pick them up.  I have not check other
>>>>>>>>> printers with the manufacturer's drivers.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I will continue testing with the other build Steve gave me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just realized another build I should have asked for: line 1221 use STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC in
>>>>>>>> addition to ADVANCED 1-4.  There would still be some differences in the PPD files, and ruling
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>> out would be good.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If ADVANCED1 doesn't work correctly, there's no point in testing ADVANCED2 and up.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have now tested the original v5.3.4-pre2, and the 4 build Steve made.  They have all the same
>>>>>>> problems.  Once you get the Printer Features displayed, you can change them, however whether or
>>>>>>> not you change them you will not be able to print.  The paper size always showing US Letter does
>>>>>>> make some sense.  It would be set by location of user.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hopefully this will help.  I went back to v5.2.15 and tried the Epson Stylus Photo r800.  It is one
>>>>>> of the printers mentioned earlier in this thread.  Everything displayed properly without any
>>>>>> machinations.  It also printed without any lockup.  The r2200 and the XP-15000 were not
>>>>>> supported at
>>>>>> the time.  Are there any other printers either in the Photo rxxx or perhaps the Stylus Pro series
>>>>>> that would be worth checking out.  I can check going forward to see where Gutenprint breaks down.
>>>>>> That may be more valuable that backtracking to see what version of macos broke v5.3.4.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So let's make sure that we know what's going on here; please correct me if I get any of this wrong:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) Epson XP-15000 works simplified, does not work (i. e. no features window) with full PPD file or
>>>>> full PPD file with only up to ADVANCED1 options and reduced number of media sizes (still don't know
>>>>> whether a full PPD file with only BASIC options works).  Likewise Epson R800 and R1800.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't look closely at the PPD files from the various builds.  Your assessment is correct
>>>> except that I could get the Printer Features to show with the full PPD from the v5.3.4-pre2 and
>>>> all the others.  You have to select Printer Features from a pop-up menu, let it show no features.
>>>>  Next, use the pop-up menu to select some other item such as Layout.  Once you do that, you can
>>>> go back to Printer Features and everything will be displayed.  The big prolem here is that
>>>> hitting ther Print button does nothing.  The entire print window is frozen.  You can't even go
>>>> back and choose Layout again.
>>>> 
>>>>> 2) Color laser printer works fine, either simplified or full.
>>>> 
>>>> Correct
>>>> 
>>>>> Is this correct, Steve and Matt?
>>>> 
>>>> I tested the Epson Stylus Photo r80o, the Epson Stylus Photo r1800, and the Canon Pro9000mkII
>>>> with Gutenprint 5.2.15.  All three printers worked fine.  All the Printer Features showed and
>>>> printing was immediate.
>>>> 
>>>> I tried to attach the PPDs earlier and the message bounced back.  I will send them uner separate
>>>> cover.
>>> 
>>> So the R1800 works perfectly but the XP-15000 malfunctions?
>> 
>> The R1800, R800, and the Canon Pro9000 did not in any of the builds of v5.3.4.  They all worked in
>> v5.2.15
> 
> Comparing the PPD files generated in master vs. 5.2.15:
> 
> 1) The 5.2 PPD files have a lot of extra paper sizes, they look like label and dyesub sizes.
> 
> 2) The 5.2 PPD files (even built -nonls) have some translation blocks; the 5.3 ones don't (that may
> not be an issue for the Mac; if nls isn't enabled at compile time, that shouldn't happen at all).
> 
> 3) The 5.3 PPD files have floating point dimensions (they all end in .000); the 5.2 ones have
> integer dimensions.
> 
> So that might be something to investigate.

The XP-15000 was not supported until v5.3.1.  

I am showing that v5.3.1 is where things break.  v5.3.1 is where shows floating decimal points rather than integers.  Neither the XP-15000 or the R1800 work.  I didn't check any others.  


v5.2.15
*ImageableArea Letter/Letter:	"0 0 612 792"
*ImageableArea Legal/Legal:	"0 0 612 1008"
*ImageableArea Tabloid/Tabloid:	"0 0 792 1224"
*ImageableArea Executive/Executive:	"0 0 522 756"
*ImageableArea Postcard/Postcard:	"0 0 283 416"
*ImageableArea CD5Inch/CD - 5 inch:	"0 0 329 329"
*ImageableArea CD3Inch/CD - 3 inch:	"0 0 184 184"

v5.3.1
*ImageableArea Letter/Letter:	"0.000 0.000 612.000 792.000"
*ImageableArea Legal/Legal:	"0.000 0.000 612.000 1008.000"
*ImageableArea Tabloid/Tabloid:	"0.000 0.000 792.000 1224.000"
*ImageableArea Executive/Executive:	"0.000 0.000 522.000 756.000"
*ImageableArea Postcard/Postcard:	"0.000 0.000 283.000 416.000"
*ImageableArea CD5Inch/CD - 5 inch:	"0.000 0.000 329.000 329.000"
*ImageableArea CD3Inch/CD - 3 inch:	"0.000 0.000 184.000 184.000"
*ImageableArea CDCustom/CD - Custom:	"0.000 0.000 340.000 340.000"

Is that something that can be fairly easily implemented for a test build?  I'm not sure what would happen if we just hand edited the PPD.  Are the binaries looking for floating point only?

Matt