Re: SV: DHCP server ?

Trevor Batley <[email protected]> Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:06:23 +1100
Newsgroups	gmane.linux.pxes.devel
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
Sorry Diego,

I had posted to the wrong list....(doh!!).

Have posted another response re: use of dhcp to distribute different images
etc., but noticed your later post re: MS$ DHCP not being able to handle this
approach.

Again, apologies.

Trevor B

Quoting Diego Torres Milano <[email protected]>:

> No, he can't.
> Becuase the problem is which image to load not which configuration file 
> to read.
> 
> Trevor B wrote:
> 
> > Einar,
> >
> > you should also be able to use the group option in thinstation.
> >
> > According to the README.IMPORTANT file you can either set an 
> > individual thinstation.conf-<mac without the :'s> or a group one of 
> > thinstation.conf.<group-xxxx> based on a group setting in your 
> > thinstation.hosts file.
> >
> > <<snippett
> > Configuration Files
> > ===================
> >
> > These must be placed in the root tftpd dir.
> >
> > * thinstation.conf.network           - Network confirguration file
> >  This is the global config file downloaded from a tftp server.
> >
> >  NOTE:  This has replaced thinstation.conf
> >
> > * thinstation.conf-<PC Indentifier>  - Individual configs for specific 
> > machines
> >
> > examples:
> >
> > thinstation.conf-<hostname> (example: thinstation.conf-hostname)
> > (this must work in conjunction with thinstation.hosts file)
> > or
> > thinstation.conf-<ip address> (example: thinstation.conf-172.23.24.101)
> > or
> > thinstation.conf-<eth MAC address> (example: 
> > thinstation.conf-005004AABBCC)
> >
> > * thinstation.conf.<group-xxxxx>    -  Group Configuration file
> >
> > example: thinstation.conf.group-samba.conf
> >
> > Use the thinstation.hosts file to defines which machine is a member of 
> > which group
> >
> > * thinstation.conf.user             - Local settings
> >  This is stored locally on a permanent storage device such as a 
> > CDROM/Floppy Disk
> >
> > * thinstation.conf.buildtime        - Build time settings
> >  These are settings which which go directly into the image at build 
> > time.  Note that if you use
> >  local storage for your settings you will need to define the STORAGE 
> > settings in here
> >
> > * thinstation.conf.example          - Example file which comes with 
> > the distro.
> >  Check this file out for all available settings
> >
> > * thinstation.hosts                 - Allows individual configuration 
> > for seperate PCs from one file.
> >
> > If you need to set individual configurations for terminals you can put 
> > config
> > files named.  See thinstation.hosts.example
> > end-snippett>>
> >
> > Trevor B
> > PS. earlier post was because I didn't read your post prooerly and 
> > thought you were having problems with the M$ side of the equation.
> >
> > Eliassen Einar (ErgoGroup) wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Tim
> >>
> >> Can you really do that with MAC addresses ? I cant seem to find it. 
> >> All I
> >> find is the HEX value of the IP address.
> >> Snagged from the page:
> >>
> >> First, it will search for the config file using its own IP address in 
> >> upper
> >> case hexadecimal, e.g. 192.0.2.91 -> C000025B (you can use the included
> >> progam gethostip to compute the hexadecimal IP address for any host.) 
> >> If that file is not found, it will remove one hex digit and try again.
> >> Ultimately, it will try looking for a file named default (in lower 
> >> case).
> >> As an example, for 192.0.2.91, it will try C000025B, C000025, C00002, 
> >> C0000,
> >> C000, C00, C0, C, and default, in that order.
> >>
> >>
> >> Of course this is an option, but it will add more administrative work.
> >> I will look into this a bit more.
> >> It could very well be what I end up using. Either that or bootloader 
> >> menu.
> >>
> >> I'm still in the testing phase concerning thin client hardware.
> >> Currently testing ThinTune boxes (www.thintune.de). The Xs box is sweet.
> >> Also expecting HPs thin clients any day.
> >>
> >> We must recycle all the old hardware before using new thin client 
> >> hardware.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanx alot Tim :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Einar Eliassen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> >> Fra: Tim Bates [mailto:[email protected]] Sendt: 18. februar 2004 10:42
> >> Til: [email protected]
> >> Emne: Re: [pxes-devel] DHCP server ?
> >>
> >>
> >> No, all you need to do is copy the "default" config file (the one called
> >> "default") from the TFTP server, modify it to have the image u want 
> >> and then
> >> call it the right name based on the mac address. Read the docs at
> >> http://syslinux.zytor.com/pxe.php.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >>> I guess I have to use the bootloader then :)
> >>> Was hoping to find a way with no user interaction....because we all 
> >>> know that users have an amazing ability to screw things up.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Einar
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> >>> Fra: Diego Torres Milano [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>> Sendt: 17. februar 2004 20:40
> >>> Til: [email protected]
> >>> Emne: Re: [pxes-devel] DHCP server ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Einar,
> >>> I will try to address some of the issues, keep reading...
> >>>
> >>> Eliassen Einar (ErgoGroup) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>> Hello list :)
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure if this has been discussed before...but here goes:
> >>>>
> >>>> In a perfect world I would be running Linux DHCP server for our 
> >>>> users. But we have a totally MS dominated network. When deploying 
> >>>> thin clients over PXE I want to use different images for different 
> >>>> hardware.
> >>>>
> >>>>     
> >>>
> >>> There're few reasons to do that. One is architecture related (not 
> >>> your case I guess). The other is X 3.3.6 vs X 4.3.0.
> >>> And perhaps some more, but they are the most relevant.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>> I know this is easy doing on Linux where you can serve a specific 
> >>>> image to a specific MAC address. Is there another way ?
> >>>>
> >>>>     
> >>>
> >>> Selected through the boot loader.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>> Take into consideration that all clients are not able to get static 
> >>>> IP. I havent really looked much at Remote Configuration yet.
> >>>>
> >>>>     
> >>>
> >>> Remote Configuration allows you to change any (almost) parameter in 
> >>> the image not the image itself.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>> Is it possible to use MS DHCP servers and make a remote config for 
> >>>> a client based on its MAC address ?
> >>>>
> >>>>     
> >>>
> >>> You can select the image depending on your IP (or part of it). If you
> >>>   
> >>
> >> check
> >>  
> >>
> >>> the PXELINUX doc you'll see.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>> I found a post on the list from Diego which said:
> >>>>
> >>>> The configurations files read are (in this order): default.conf
> >>>> <network>.conf
> >>>> <MAC>.conf
> >>>> <hostname>.conf
> >>>>
> >>>> MAC is the hex value (i.e: XXXXXXXXXX.conf)
> >>>>
> >>>>     
> >>>
> >>> Yes, but it's too late to change the image.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem I'm trying to solve is that I have some thin clients 
> >>>> who MUST have the X 4.3 version. Because a buggy SiS chip that 
> >>>> won't work with X 3.3.6. The other clients run fine on X 3.3.6.
> >>>>
> >>>> The image for X 4.3 adds up to 8.9 MB and the 3.3.6 image comes to 
> >>>> 6.3 MB. So I must give out 2 different images in a MS only 
> >>>> environment.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Do I use Remote Config for this or is there another way ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Einar Eliassen
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>     
> >>>
> >>> I hope this could help you.
> >>>
> >>>   
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