Re: i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2

"Hasan Jamal" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.real-time.rtai
Organization Connect Tech Inc
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I did some debugging on user/latency and I found that it is hung on
__ipipe_migrate_head
The call chain is 
rt_make_hard_real_time -> steal_from_linux -> __ipipe_migrate_head

So, it's some scheduling issue, how to move past this?


-----Original Message-----
From: Hasan Jamal [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: March-09-16 9:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: FW: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2

Send to the list as suggested by Paolo, the nice guy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paolo Mantegazza [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: March-09-16 9:14 AM
To: Hasan Jamal
Subject: Re: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2

The
On 03/09/2016 02:58 PM, Hasan Jamal wrote:
> After overnight test, I'd say kernel and RTAI modules are working 
> properly for 3.14.39. But, It looks RTAI modules have subtle bugs 
> during module load/unload, may need some flushing of cache? My next 
> job is to get user/latency work, I'd like to load modules manually for 
> it, what modules does it need?
Hal+sched+sem+mbx+msg, while kernel space needs hal+sched+fifos. It is
an easy information you can gather from the files "runinfo" in "testsuite"
directories.
Your problem is likely one of cold caches, to be warmed up. In my view also
ovl_max maight be a bit high, but if it is generated just in the first
records then that will confirm my assumption.
The latency.c code I sent you has just a few lines more to check what
happens after having warmed the cache up. You should try it, porting the
same checks into the kernel test.
BTW: keep this thread on the RTAI list. I sent you the code privately not to
cut other RTAI users off, but just not to bother them with an attachment. I
would like other people can learn something through the list discussions.
Paolo.
>
> Following is the output of overnight test with intense load
>
> RTH|    lat min|    ovl min|    lat avg|    lat max|    ovl max|
overruns
> RTD|        263|        112|        315|       3104|      47942|
0
> RTD|        262|        112|        314|       1277|      47942|
0
> RTD|        260|        112|        313|       1450|      47942|
0
> RTD|        262|        112|        313|       1130|      47942|
0
> RTD|        262|        112|        314|       3474|      47942|
0
> RTD|        261|        112|        314|       1126|      47942|
0
> RTD|        264|        112|        315|       2890|      47942|
0
> RTD|        262|        112|        314|       1455|      47942|
0
> RTD|        215|        112|        314|       1285|      47942|
0
> RTD|        263|        112|        314|       1310|      47942|
0
> RTD|        262|        112|        315|       3857|      47942|
0
> RTD|        247|        112|        313|       1058|      47942|
0
> RTD|        220|        112|        315|       2209|      47942|
0
> RTD|        263|        112|        315|       1829|      47942|
0
> RTD|        179|        112|        314|       1682|      47942|
0
> RTD|        262|        112|        313|       1788|      47942|
0
> RTD|        262|        112|        314|       3287|      47942|
0
> RTD|        158|        112|        314|       1328|      47942|
0
> RTD|        262|        112|        314|       1417|      47942|
0
> RTD|        262|        112|        315|       1286|      47942|
0
> ^CRTD|        262|        112|        315|       1286|      47942|
> 0
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hasan Jamal [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March-08-16 11:14 PM
> To: 'Paolo Mantegazza'
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> Looks like 3.14.39 is working. What I found is that I always get 0 
> overruns after reboot, but if start/stop /kern/latency then overruns 
> number increase randomly. So, I manually loaded all needed modules for 
> kern/latency and if I start/stop latency test then overrun number 
> never increases under default load. I'm running now with intense load 
> and will post result tomorrow morning.
>
> Thanks,
> Hasan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hasan Jamal [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March-08-16 6:58 PM
> To: 'Paolo Mantegazza'
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> I spent days getting Linux-3.16/RTAI4.1 built but went nowhere.
> So, I decided the latest but it is also not working properly.
> I'm building now for 3.14.39.
>
> I've to get it working by tomorrow, promised to the customer.
>
> I'm using the same system where old Linux-2.6.24 with RTAI works, now 
> the customer needs upgrade together other stuff like applications.
>
> The minimum requirement is Linux-3.11 from customer.
>
> I appreciate your help, any idea to make progress?
>
> Thanks,
> Hasan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paolo Mantegazza [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March-08-16 6:42 PM
> To: Hasan Jamal
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> Take into account that you have to wait a few seconds before seeing 
> something on the screen.
> If user space does not work then there is something strange.
>
> Paolo
> ________________________________________
> From: Hasan Jamal [[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 12:21 AM
> To: Paolo Mantegazza
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> This does not update table, looks like hung. I was using kern/latency. 
> If kern/latency somehow works then why not user/latency?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paolo Mantegazza [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March-08-16 6:13 PM
> To: Hasan Jamal
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> User
> ________________________________________
> From: Hasan Jamal [[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 12:08 AM
> To: Paolo Mantegazza
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> OK, got it; is this user or kern? I just want to make sure even though 
> you mentioned 'user' previously.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paolo Mantegazza [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March-08-16 6:02 PM
> To: Hasan Jamal
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> Now you should. Paolo
> ________________________________________
> From: Hasan Jamal [[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 11:37 PM
> To: Paolo Mantegazza
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> I didn't get the attachment.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paolo Mantegazza [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March-08-16 5:35 PM
> To: Hasan Jamal
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> Please overwrite the attached latency.c in the RTAI subdirectory:
> "testsuite/user/latency".
> Then rerun make install from there, go and execute latency again.
> Report if anything changed to the RTAI list.
> Thanks, Paolo.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Hasan Jamal [[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 10:50 PM
> To: Paolo Mantegazza
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> Running your script of 'make' and will post result an hour later.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hasan Jamal [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March-08-16 4:42 PM
> To: 'Paolo Mantegazza'; '[email protected]'
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> OK, got it. It won't make any difference than what I'm doing. 
> Following is the output after running for 50mins
>
> RTD|        270|          0|        321|       1696|      46086|
26
> RTD|        270|          0|        320|       1852|      46086|
26
> RTH|    lat min|    ovl min|    lat avg|    lat max|    ovl max|
overruns
> RTD|        270|          0|        321|       2051|      46086|
26
> RTD|        265|          0|        323|       2965|      46086|
26
>
> Following is 'pas aux' output, ' heap_array' is using 100% of both CPU.
>
> root      2549  0.0  0.0   4448   776 pts/14   S+   14:46   0:00 /bin/sh
> ./run
> root      2550  0.0  0.0   4448  1640 pts/14   S+   14:46   0:00 /bin/sh
> /usr/realtime/bin/rtai-load
> root      2582  0.0  0.0   4448  1328 pts/14   S+   14:46   0:00 /bin/sh
> /usr/realtime/bin/rtai-load
> root      2623  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    14:46   0:00
> [RTAI_KTHRD_SRVR]
> root      2659  0.0  0.0   4336   624 pts/14   S+   14:46   0:00 ./display
> root      2661  100  5.2 209000 205752 pts/6   R    14:47  47:59
> ./heap_array
> root      2662 99.5  5.2 209000 205688 pts/6   R    14:47  47:45
> ./heap_array
> root      2679  0.0  0.0  22648  2620 pts/6    R+   15:35   0:00 ps aux
>
> Following is the output of last few lines of 'dmesg'
>
> [  164.259240] I-pipe: head domain RTAI registered.
> [  164.259244] RTAI[hal]: mounted. ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0, LINUX CPU 
> ISOLATED
> MAP: 0).
> [  164.259248] SYSINFO - # CPUs: 2, TIMER NAME: 'lapic', TIMER IRQ: 
> 16641, TIMER FREQ: 68593002, CLOCK NAME: 'tsc', CLOCK FREQ: 2194981000,
CPU FREQ:
> 2194981000, LINUX TIMER IRQ: 16641.
> [  177.017478] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, <BSD>.
> [  177.017521] , kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
> [  177.017524] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = lapic/68593002(Hz);
> timing: oneshot; linear timed lists.
> [  177.017526] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq 
> =
> 2194981000 hz.
> [  177.017528] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 124 ns, resched latency = 0 ns.
> [  191.216621]
> [  191.216621]
> [  191.216621] CPU USE SUMMARY
> [  191.216627] # 0 -> 140730
> [  191.216628] # 1 -> 0
> [  191.216629] END OF CPU USE SUMMARY
> [  191.216629]
> [  191.245947] SCHED releases registered named TASK THRSRV [ 
> 191.246059]
> RTAI[malloc]: unloaded.
> [  191.342819] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions:
> traps 0, syscalls 0).
> [ 1593.438447] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, <BSD>.
> [ 1593.438491] , kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
> [ 1593.438494] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = lapic/68593002(Hz);
> timing: oneshot; linear timed lists.
> [ 1593.438496] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq 
> =
> 2194981000 hz.
> [ 1593.438498] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 124 ns, resched latency = 0 ns.
> [ 1604.719986]
> [ 1604.719986]
> [ 1604.719986] CPU USE SUMMARY
> [ 1604.719992] # 0 -> 112287
> [ 1604.719993] # 1 -> 0
> [ 1604.719994] END OF CPU USE SUMMARY
> [ 1604.719994]
> [ 1604.734869] SCHED releases registered named TASK THRSRV [ 
> 1604.734973]
> RTAI[malloc]: unloaded.
> [ 1604.831806] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions:
> traps 0, syscalls 0).
> [ 1606.783388] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, <BSD>.
> [ 1606.783432] , kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
> [ 1606.783436] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = lapic/68593002(Hz);
> timing: oneshot; linear timed lists.
> [ 1606.783438] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq 
> =
> 2194981000 hz.
> [ 1606.783439] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 124 ns, resched latency = 0 ns.
> [ 1614.699614]
> [ 1614.699614]
> [ 1614.699614] CPU USE SUMMARY
> [ 1614.699619] # 0 -> 78685
> [ 1614.699620] # 1 -> 0
> [ 1614.699622] END OF CPU USE SUMMARY
> [ 1614.699622]
> [ 1614.724600] SCHED releases registered named TASK THRSRV [ 
> 1614.724704]
> RTAI[malloc]: unloaded.
> [ 1614.822239] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions:
> traps 0, syscalls 0).
> [ 1615.948754] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, <BSD>.
> [ 1615.948798] , kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
> [ 1615.948801] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = lapic/68593002(Hz);
> timing: oneshot; linear timed lists.
> [ 1615.948803] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq 
> =
> 2194981000 hz.
> [ 1615.948805] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 124 ns, resched latency = 0 ns.
> [ 1620.153990]
> [ 1620.153990]
> [ 1620.153990] CPU USE SUMMARY
> [ 1620.153995] # 0 -> 41611
> [ 1620.153997] # 1 -> 0
> [ 1620.153998] END OF CPU USE SUMMARY
> [ 1620.153998]
> [ 1620.180231] SCHED releases registered named TASK THRSRV [ 
> 1620.180351]
> RTAI[malloc]: unloaded.
> [ 1620.279942] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions:
> traps 0, syscalls 0).
> [ 1621.160235] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, <BSD>.
> [ 1621.160280] , kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
> [ 1621.160283] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = lapic/68593002(Hz);
> timing: oneshot; linear timed lists.
> [ 1621.160285] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq 
> =
> 2194981000 hz.
> [ 1621.160287] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 125 ns, resched latency = 0 ns.
> [ 2563.057731] perf interrupt took too long (2511 > 2500), lowering 
> kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000
>
> Let me know whether any other info that would help.
>
> Thanks,
> Hasan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paolo Mantegazza [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March-08-16 4:29 PM
> To: Hasan Jamal; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> I mean entering the Linux directory and:
> while "true"; do make clean; make -j<all_my_cpus>; done Paolo 
> ________________________________________
> From: Hasan Jamal [[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 9:37 PM
> To: Paolo Mantegazza; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> I made my own version of application, that writes  to 125 MB of RAM 
> continuously and ran a few instances of the same application, 'ps aux'
> showed full CPU usage.
> I'll follow your suggestion for loading OS using ping, not sure what 
> you meant for "keept making the kernel and cleaning it"?
>
> Thanks,
> Hasan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paolo Mantegazza [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March-08-16 3:27 PM
> To: Hasan Jamal; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> How long did the test last? There was intense Linux load?
> Take into account that you should test for a hour or twq, at least. To 
> create a somewhat intense Linux load in run "ping -f somewher" and 
> keept making the kernel and cleaning it.
> Then report the final rows of the latency test.
> Paolo
> ________________________________________
> From: Hasan Jamal [[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 8:56 PM
> To: Paolo Mantegazza; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
>> BTW, have you disabled CPU frequency scaling (CPU throttling) 
>> BIOS/Linux
> config?
> No, I did not but built with disabled CPU frequency scaling does same.
>
> Following is the result after overnight test with no load but default 
> services running.
>
> RTH|    lat min|    ovl min|    lat avg|    lat max|    ovl max|
overruns
> RTD|       1304|          0|       1815|       3118|      43940|
7
> RTD|        974|          0|       1823|       3900|      43940|
7
>
> If I stop and start 'run' then overruns changes but the number does 
> not change over time, it seems that is somehow locked.
>
> Following is the output with intense load (disabled CPU frequency 
> scaling), again overrun number don't change from start.
>
> RTH|    lat min|    ovl min|    lat avg|    lat max|    ovl max|
overruns
> RTD|        267|          0|        321|       1195|       7753|
10
> RTD|        267|          0|        322|       1166|       7753|
10
>
> May I accept this result as good? Or some bugs are in RTAI?
>
> Thanks,
> Hasan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paolo Mantegazza [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March-07-16 6:06 PM
> To: Hasan Jamal; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2
>
> It means that there have been 7 cycles that missed the deadline. 
> Somewhat strange, since latency has aperiod of 100000 ns, which is not 
> overtaken by a max overall latency of 32043 ns.
> Let it run longer, under intense Linux load, and see what happens.
> BTW, have you disabled CPU frequency scaling (CPU throttling) 
> BIOS/Linux config?
Paolo. ________________________________________ From: Rtai
[[email protected]] on behalf of Hasan Jamal [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 11:47 PM To: 
[email protected] Subject: [Rtai] i7 working for rtai-5.0-test1.tar.bz2 I've got
latest RTAI5.0 working Linux-3.18.22. I'm wondering about overruns in
latency test, are they normal? RTD| 1339| 0| 1837| 7611| 32043| 7 
RTD| 979| 0| 1818| 5484| 32043| 7 RTH| lat min| ovl min| lat avg| lat
max| ovl max| overruns RTD| 1414| 0| 1839| 2742| 32043| 7 RTD| 979| 0|
1819| 27438| 32043| 7 RTD| 1780| 0| 1824| 10873| 32043| 7 RTD| 974| 0|
1807| 11571| 32043| 7 RTD| 1570| 0| 1842| 10585| 32043| 7 RTD| 979| 0|
1835| 22838| 32043| 7 RTD| 1730| 0| 1814| 2773| 32043| 7 RTD| 984| 0|
1830| 16463| 32043| 7 RTD| 1720| 0| 1835| 11337| 32043| 7 RTD| 984| 0|
1822| 21159| 32043| 7



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