Re: Rtai Digest, Vol 110, Issue 3

Il gio 16 feb 2017, 23:39 <[email protected]> ha scritto:

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> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:30:31 +0000
> From: Brooke Wallace <[email protected]>
> To: Torsten Koschorrek <[email protected]>, Paolo Mantegazza
>         <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Rtai] RTAI status
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> Thanks for the info. It looks like a good project to work with. I'm
> relaying this to my team.
>
> Is there an effort to translate the documentation to English? I recall
> poking around and find a lot of it in Spanish or something.
>

As far as I remember the documentation is in english. Some files are
available in rtai.org site, other guides in the web.


> And what about GIT? you mention Vulcano CVS below. Is there a GIT
> repository yet?
>

There is no official git repo of rtai, only the CVS repo on gna.

I have an unofficial git repo on github.com/fcuzzocrea/RTAI that keeps
track of the entire history of rtai but is only for my personal
developement/purposes.


> -Brooke
> ________________________________________
> From: Torsten Koschorrek [[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 2:21 PM
> To: Paolo Mantegazza; Brooke Wallace; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Rtai] RTAI status
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm the maintainer for ARM.
>
> Just like Paolo I don't have as much time as I like for RTAI, especially
> after switching my employer some time back. Still I'm willing to and do
> work for the project.
>
> This means primarily to support people who want to work with ARM in RTAI
> and help them to do the porting or setting up of the system. I also have
> some minor and bigger work packages and ideas which are only waiting for
> being implemented. This would also include an update of the RTAI project
> page for example ;-) to let people know that the project is still active
> and to reflect the current status.
>
> Torsten
>
>
>
> On 14.02.2017 10:38, Paolo Mantegazza wrote:
> > RTAI is at the state of version 5.0-test. It has not been released as
> > 5.0 final because I've pending issues on RTDM support and I did not find
> > yet the time to work on it.
> > In any case, RTDM apart, Vulcano CVS is in a good shape and working.
> >
> > The point is that  I'm intensely using it now, and I've not found much
> > time to care for a release. That's bad but, on the good side, I'm still
> > seeing RTAI working nicely and effectively, hands on and on significant
> > problems.
> >
> > My coding is straight in C but in my dept there reappeared (lazy) people
> > that like getting their controllers generated automatically. Thus I soon
> > foresee some refurbishing of RTAI-Lab also.
> >
> > All of what above, at least in relation of what we are doing, has also
> > shown that the interface with COMEDI is still working properly.
> >
> > There is some ARM support, with an own maintainer, in RTAI, but I'm not
> > working on it. Nevertheless I've a plan to acquaint myself with
> > Rapsberry. I did something already, e.g saw that I can develop my stuff
> > much like as on a PC. Unfortunately the lack of a boot-loader makes
> > kernel level (patching) development quite annoying. I've been said there
> > might be the possibility of using a boot-loader but did not verify it
> > yet. Development using a virtual environment is not my choice.
> >
> > Overall it is all a matter of time, at the moment there are 3 people
> > working on RTAI, 2 just (very) sparingly. After my retirement I hoped to
> > have more time to dedicate to RTAI. (Un?)Fortunately my continued
> > engagement with my dept research activities proved it was not that way.
> >
> > In any case I find RTAI as lively as before, at least on my side and for
> > not so trivial applications.
> >
> > It would be helpful to find people willing to supporting some RTAI
> > subsystems development, e.g. RTDM, RTAI-Lab and COMEDI updates.
> >
> > Paolo
> >
> > On 02/14/2017 01:00 AM, Brooke Wallace wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm curious what the status of RTAI. I see the website was last
> >> updated about a year ago, but the latest release notices are dated
> >> 2013. Thats ok, maybe its already complete and doesn't need a new
> >> release. But I see also on the mail list that kernel patches are still
> >> required. Was there ever an effort to have those changes up-streamed
> >> into the kernel
> >>
> >> W'ere thinking about taking a look at RTAI for our RTOS in a project
> >> and I want to make sure there is still an active community. Some of
> >> the documentation also talks about x86... is there support for ARM?
> >>
> >> If your no longer using RTAI, what is the popular choice for
> >> Linux/RTOS combination now?
> >>
> >> Please let me know. I was hooked on RTLinux back in the day and would
> >> like to get back to some RT development again.
> >>
> >> -Brooke
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:42:13 +0100
> From: Paolo Mantegazza <[email protected]>
> To: Brooke Wallace <[email protected]>, Torsten Koschorrek
>         <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Rtai] RTAI status
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> On 02/16/2017 06:30 PM, Brooke Wallace wrote:
> > Thanks for the info. It looks like a good project to work with. I'm
> relaying this to my team.
> >
> > Is there an effort to translate the documentation to English? I recall
> poking around and find a lot of it in Spanish or something.
> The documentation I know should be in English, mostly. RTAI documetation
> is an issue that needs revising, but ... who's time to do it? It is not
> as amusing as doing things with it. If you need to know what a function
> does look at the code Doxigen comments. If is not up to date look at the
> code, which, clearly, as little or no comment!
> > And what about GIT? you mention Vulcano CVS below. Is there a GIT
> repository yet?
> AFAIK there is (are?) but not from our side (RTAI "originators"). To me
> the kind of repository to use is a minor problem.
>
> Paolo.
> >
> > -Brooke
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Torsten Koschorrek [[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 2:21 PM
> > To: Paolo Mantegazza; Brooke Wallace; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Rtai] RTAI status
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm the maintainer for ARM.
> >
> > Just like Paolo I don't have as much time as I like for RTAI, especially
> > after switching my employer some time back. Still I'm willing to and do
> > work for the project.
> >
> > This means primarily to support people who want to work with ARM in RTAI
> > and help them to do the porting or setting up of the system. I also have
> > some minor and bigger work packages and ideas which are only waiting for
> > being implemented. This would also include an update of the RTAI project
> > page for example ;-) to let people know that the project is still active
> > and to reflect the current status.
> >
> > Torsten
> >
> >
> >
> > On 14.02.2017 10:38, Paolo Mantegazza wrote:
> >> RTAI is at the state of version 5.0-test. It has not been released as
> >> 5.0 final because I've pending issues on RTDM support and I did not find
> >> yet the time to work on it.
> >> In any case, RTDM apart, Vulcano CVS is in a good shape and working.
> >>
> >> The point is that  I'm intensely using it now, and I've not found much
> >> time to care for a release. That's bad but, on the good side, I'm still
> >> seeing RTAI working nicely and effectively, hands on and on significant
> >> problems.
> >>
> >> My coding is straight in C but in my dept there reappeared (lazy) people
> >> that like getting their controllers generated automatically. Thus I soon
> >> foresee some refurbishing of RTAI-Lab also.
> >>
> >> All of what above, at least in relation of what we are doing, has also
> >> shown that the interface with COMEDI is still working properly.
> >>
> >> There is some ARM support, with an own maintainer, in RTAI, but I'm not
> >> working on it. Nevertheless I've a plan to acquaint myself with
> >> Rapsberry. I did something already, e.g saw that I can develop my stuff
> >> much like as on a PC. Unfortunately the lack of a boot-loader makes
> >> kernel level (patching) development quite annoying. I've been said there
> >> might be the possibility of using a boot-loader but did not verify it
> >> yet. Development using a virtual environment is not my choice.
> >>
> >> Overall it is all a matter of time, at the moment there are 3 people
> >> working on RTAI, 2 just (very) sparingly. After my retirement I hoped to
> >> have more time to dedicate to RTAI. (Un?)Fortunately my continued
> >> engagement with my dept research activities proved it was not that way.
> >>
> >> In any case I find RTAI as lively as before, at least on my side and for
> >> not so trivial applications.
> >>
> >> It would be helpful to find people willing to supporting some RTAI
> >> subsystems development, e.g. RTDM, RTAI-Lab and COMEDI updates.
> >>
> >> Paolo
> >>
> >> On 02/14/2017 01:00 AM, Brooke Wallace wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm curious what the status of RTAI. I see the website was last
> >>> updated about a year ago, but the latest release notices are dated
> >>> 2013. Thats ok, maybe its already complete and doesn't need a new
> >>> release. But I see also on the mail list that kernel patches are still
> >>> required. Was there ever an effort to have those changes up-streamed
> >>> into the kernel
> >>>
> >>> W'ere thinking about taking a look at RTAI for our RTOS in a project
> >>> and I want to make sure there is still an active community. Some of
> >>> the documentation also talks about x86... is there support for ARM?
> >>>
> >>> If your no longer using RTAI, what is the popular choice for
> >>> Linux/RTOS combination now?
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know. I was hooked on RTLinux back in the day and would
> >>> like to get back to some RT development again.
> >>>
> >>> -Brooke
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Rtai mailing list
> >>> [email protected]
> >>> https://mail.rtai.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rtai
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Rtai mailing list
> >> [email protected]
> >> https://mail.rtai.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rtai
> >>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:39:24 -0500
> From: Shahbaz Youssefi <[email protected]>
> To: Brooke Wallace <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Rtai] RTAI status
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> There is a git repository: https://github.com/shabbyx/rtai
>
> When I had the time and was using RTAI extensively, it had some extra fixes
> and clean ups which never got picked up by upstream, but some debian
> packages of RTAI were based off of it.
>
> I stopped maintaining it a couple years ago as I lost interest in RTAI
> altogether, but I would be open to an occasional "sync" with upstream if
> there are any users.
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Brooke Wallace <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the info. It looks like a good project to work with. I'm
> > relaying this to my team.
> >
> > Is there an effort to translate the documentation to English? I recall
> > poking around and find a lot of it in Spanish or something.
> >
> > And what about GIT? you mention Vulcano CVS below. Is there a GIT
> > repository yet?
> >
> > -Brooke
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Torsten Koschorrek [[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 2:21 PM
> > To: Paolo Mantegazza; Brooke Wallace; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Rtai] RTAI status
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm the maintainer for ARM.
> >
> > Just like Paolo I don't have as much time as I like for RTAI, especially
> > after switching my employer some time back. Still I'm willing to and do
> > work for the project.
> >
> > This means primarily to support people who want to work with ARM in RTAI
> > and help them to do the porting or setting up of the system. I also have
> > some minor and bigger work packages and ideas which are only waiting for
> > being implemented. This would also include an update of the RTAI project
> > page for example ;-) to let people know that the project is still active
> > and to reflect the current status.
> >
> > Torsten
> >
> >
> >
> > On 14.02.2017 10:38, Paolo Mantegazza wrote:
> > > RTAI is at the state of version 5.0-test. It has not been released as
> > > 5.0 final because I've pending issues on RTDM support and I did not
> find
> > > yet the time to work on it.
> > > In any case, RTDM apart, Vulcano CVS is in a good shape and working.
> > >
> > > The point is that  I'm intensely using it now, and I've not found much
> > > time to care for a release. That's bad but, on the good side, I'm still
> > > seeing RTAI working nicely and effectively, hands on and on significant
> > > problems.
> > >
> > > My coding is straight in C but in my dept there reappeared (lazy)
> people
> > > that like getting their controllers generated automatically. Thus I
> soon
> > > foresee some refurbishing of RTAI-Lab also.
> > >
> > > All of what above, at least in relation of what we are doing, has also
> > > shown that the interface with COMEDI is still working properly.
> > >
> > > There is some ARM support, with an own maintainer, in RTAI, but I'm not
> > > working on it. Nevertheless I've a plan to acquaint myself with
> > > Rapsberry. I did something already, e.g saw that I can develop my stuff
> > > much like as on a PC. Unfortunately the lack of a boot-loader makes
> > > kernel level (patching) development quite annoying. I've been said
> there
> > > might be the possibility of using a boot-loader but did not verify it
> > > yet. Development using a virtual environment is not my choice.
> > >
> > > Overall it is all a matter of time, at the moment there are 3 people
> > > working on RTAI, 2 just (very) sparingly. After my retirement I hoped
> to
> > > have more time to dedicate to RTAI. (Un?)Fortunately my continued
> > > engagement with my dept research activities proved it was not that way.
> > >
> > > In any case I find RTAI as lively as before, at least on my side and
> for
> > > not so trivial applications.
> > >
> > > It would be helpful to find people willing to supporting some RTAI
> > > subsystems development, e.g. RTDM, RTAI-Lab and COMEDI updates.
> > >
> > > Paolo
> > >
> > > On 02/14/2017 01:00 AM, Brooke Wallace wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I'm curious what the status of RTAI. I see the website was last
> > >> updated about a year ago, but the latest release notices are dated
> > >> 2013. Thats ok, maybe its already complete and doesn't need a new
> > >> release. But I see also on the mail list that kernel patches are still
> > >> required. Was there ever an effort to have those changes up-streamed
> > >> into the kernel
> > >>
> > >> W'ere thinking about taking a look at RTAI for our RTOS in a project
> > >> and I want to make sure there is still an active community. Some of
> > >> the documentation also talks about x86... is there support for ARM?
> > >>
> > >> If your no longer using RTAI, what is the popular choice for
> > >> Linux/RTOS combination now?
> > >>
> > >> Please let me know. I was hooked on RTLinux back in the day and would
> > >> like to get back to some RT development again.
> > >>
> > >> -Brooke
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Rtai mailing list
> > >> [email protected]
> > >> https://mail.rtai.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rtai
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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