Re: console speech

Hello,

I agree. That said I currently can't use espeakup here since my system 
uses Pulse. Maybe I'll get the urge to disable Pulseaudio and try Alsa. 
this way I can use espeakup again.


Alonzo



On 05/30/2016 03:55 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Martin MacCormack has done so and he's not the only one to have done 
> it either.  Probably what will benefit many will be an alsa linux wiki 
> describing circumstances under which whether using command line or 
> g.u.i. interfaces it's advantageous to uninstall pulseaudio and set 
> everything to work with alsa.  Then installers will be able to read 
> and act accordingly.
>
> On Mon, 30 May 2016, Alonzo Cuellar wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 16:46:30
>> From: Alonzo Cuellar <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I understand that. whhich is why I stated usign gnome or any type of 
>> x environment is where it benefits the user to use Pule. I've not 
>> used Alsa. I've only used it to install Arch Linux with Talkinc Arch. 
>> I don't see a problem with only using Alsa. However, I'd think more 
>> and more apps are requiring Pulse these days.
>>
>> It just seems that one would have to do a lot of work to get rid of 
>> pulse if wanting an Alsa only system. I've not tried the approach 
>> with not having pulse audio loading drivers. and having alsa with 
>> dmix not having Pulse take control of the audio device.
>>
>>
>> alonzo
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/30/2016 09:27 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>> Not in the case of talkingarchlinux. That distro has a script for 
>>> automatic sound card discovery and it's able to install a system in 
>>> a way where the default will be usb speakers when the installation 
>>> is complete.
>>> Kalilinux which uses pulseaudio cannot find usb speakers and match 
>>> what talkingarchlinux can do now.  The pulseaudio system is a 
>>> control system not anything that works on low level stuff.  A couple 
>>> sighted people who built me a new computer and installed kalilinux 
>>> on it for me and myself later verified all of this.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 29 May 2016, Alonzo Cuellar wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:53:28
>>>> From: Alonzo Cuellar <[email protected]>
>>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>>>
>>>> hello,
>>>>
>>>> My thoughts. Pulse Audio has more functionality then Alsa. Alsa is 
>>>> great for a low level system meaning only command line access. If 
>>>> you run a graphical environment you will not be able to get 
>>>> discovery of sound automatically unless of course you write some 
>>>> sort of scripts for Alsa.
>>>>
>>>> I happen to think though that when Pulse Audio was beginning to be 
>>>> upon the Linux community most of us who used Espeakup relied on 
>>>> Alsa heaviely. Now its a bit of a problem for a user who wants the 
>>>> desktop experience.
>>>>
>>>> Thats just what I see.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> alonzo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/26/2016 09:32 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>>> Once pulseaudio is purged, try powering off the system then start 
>>>>> the system up again and find out what happens.  If everything 
>>>>> works, the system will reconfigure to account for the absence of 
>>>>> pulseaudio and you should have speech back again once that happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2016, Mark Peveto wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 03:32:44
>>>>>> From: Mark Peveto <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tried, but it totally jacked up my sound after that. I'm having 
>>>>>> to reinstall again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/25/2016 01:58 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>>>>> Mark has to get rid of pulseaudio and all of its dependencies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 May 2016, Willem van der Walt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 14:10:06
>>>>>>>> From: Willem van der Walt <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: console speech
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Get rid of pulseaudio.
>>>>>>>> You should be able to google how to do that on your distro.
>>>>>>>> HTH, Willem
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 May 2016, Mark Peveto wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm at my witt's end!  I'm working with f123, a manjaro based 
>>>>>>>>> distro, and have had really good luck, until it comes to 
>>>>>>>>> console speech using espeakup.
>>>>>>>>> It'll speak for about 30 seconds, then I get a pulseaudio 
>>>>>>>>> error that looks like this.
>>>>>>>>> assirtion 'p' failed at pulse/simple.c:273, function 
>>>>>>>>> pa_simple_write(). Aborting.
>>>>>>>>> It's shot me down on every manjaro based distro I've tried. 
>>>>>>>>> Others have seemed to get speech in console, but I can't seem 
>>>>>>>>> to make it happen. Vinux has
>>>>>>>>> it, and if i have to i'll put vinux on both machines, but that 
>>>>>>>>> seems a little nuts.  I like vinux, and am using it now, but 
>>>>>>>>> would also like the
>>>>>>>>> opportunity to work with these other distros. I've been able 
>>>>>>>>> to install my favorite programs, but trying to use them from a 
>>>>>>>>> terminal just doesn't read
>>>>>>>>> well, so I need the console.
>>>>>>>>> Oh, and before someone says google it, I've done that for a 
>>>>>>>>> week. Nothing helps.  LOL!
>>>>>>>>> Mark Peveto
>>>>>>>>> Registered Linux user number 600552
>>>>>>>>> Sent from vinux using alpine 2.20.10
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