Re: Update related to F123e

I myself, will migrate to Mutt or Emacs.


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On 11/07/2016 03:31 PM, John G Heim wrote:
> Stupid orca & thunderbird!!! I keep responding to the wrong messages.
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> On 11/07/2016 10:02 AM, John G Heim wrote:
>> I thought it was a one-time thing. It wasn't clear in your original 
>> message that it happens every time. I'll fix it.
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>> On 11/07/2016 05:35 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>> A file emacspeak-easy-howto has some useful information in it.  I'll 
>>> search my bookmarks and see if I can locate a link, but a google 
>>> search with file:emacspeak-easy-howto ought to locate it if I don't 
>>> have it in my bookmarks.
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>>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2016, Fernando Botelho wrote:
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>>>> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 06:16:20
>>>> From: Fernando Botelho <[email protected]>
>>>> To: Peter V?gner <[email protected]>, [email protected],
>>>>     [email protected], [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Update related to F123e
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>>>> Peter, we have now linked to your first post on this topic.
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>>>> Do you have plans to research the possibility of importing 
>>>> Spacemacs keybindings to Emacs before you memorize too many of 
>>>> those Emacs keybindings?
>>>>
>>>> Fernando
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>>>> On 11/07/2016 07:53 AM, Peter V?gner wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
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>>>>> It took me a long time to decide but I have attempted to start 
>>>>> first blog post of what I hope will be a series on short tips on 
>>>>> emacs accessibility.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example I am looking into it for about a year sporadically.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like F123E plan but instead of automation I would rather like to 
>>>>> do something that would build on Arch linux philosophy. I am not 
>>>>> going to rewrote the documentation but I would like to try showing 
>>>>> some success stories while handling these things. Most of the 
>>>>> articles end with a message saying something like it has a bit 
>>>>> higher learning curve etc but unfortunatelly very little of them 
>>>>> actually showcase how to go about changing that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's see how this attempt will turn out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So far I have got into basic buffer navigation and manipulation 
>>>>> commands, navigating around emacs in general, emacs editing 
>>>>> commands, understood so called easy customizations, got my-self to 
>>>>> install and upgrade packages from elpa / melpa, briefly started 
>>>>> playing with org mode, learned about basic dired file manipulation 
>>>>> features, managed to connect to twitter with twittering-mode. And 
>>>>> some invisible issues along my way such as debugging issues with 
>>>>> request.el library and curl, getting epg working with gpg.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are things I hope I have learned enough so I can comfortably 
>>>>> use them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Next on my todo list are knowing speechd-el better, emacs packages 
>>>>> such as matrix-client for inovative instant messaging and more, 
>>>>> jabber for classic messaging, gnus for email, sauron for 
>>>>> integrated notifications.
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>>>>>
>>>>> This is my initial plan and these are things I wish to eventually 
>>>>> cover later.
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>>>>>
>>>>> My first article just talks about installing and running emacs for 
>>>>> the first time.
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>>>>>
>>>>> https://pvagner.tk/2016/emacs-a11y-tip-1-introduction-and-how-to-install 
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>>>>>
>>>>> Of course if you have ideas, comments, anything feel free to post.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and greetings
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 06.11.2016 at 18:17 Fernando Botelho wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks to those who have sent feedback to my emails to various 
>>>>>> lists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far this is what I have found out:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of people are in agreement regarding the need for:
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>>>>>> * An easier way to install and setup Emacspeak;
>>>>>> * An easier way for Emacspeak to use eSpeak and/or other 
>>>>>> synthesizers; and
>>>>>> * At least one expert also mentioned that Spacemacs does not 
>>>>>> solve all issues, as it has some inaccessible output.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, it has been said that:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * SpeechD-el can make Emacs accessible;
>>>>>> * SpeechD-el already works well with Speech-Dispatcher and eSpeak;
>>>>>> * SpeechD-el is already easier to install and is multilingual by 
>>>>>> default;
>>>>>> * SpeechD-el could even be used to bridge communication between 
>>>>>> Emacspeak and Speech-Dispatcher and eSpeak; and
>>>>>> * it might be easier to just bring Spacemacs keybindings to 
>>>>>> classic Emacs rather than move all of the SpeechD-el or Emacspeak 
>>>>>> accessibility to Spacemacs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have updated our project document accordingly:
>>>>>> https://public.f123.org/experimental/About-F123e.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fernando
>>>>>>
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