Re: emacspeak finally running

I think the package is no longer on the beginner-to-linux-install-track 
given variances with documentation and what I ended up having to do to 
the Makefile to get it to run at all.  I built from emacspeak.git too.

On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, The Wolf wrote:

> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:30:56
> From: The Wolf <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <[email protected]>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: emacspeak finally running
> 
> sounds like more trouble then it is worth
>
> how is a beginner to linux supposed to understand all of this tech jargon.
> not trying to upset any one but am curious.
>
> On 3/2/2017 2:25 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> What a mess!
>> I had to do a whole lot of things way outside documentation to get this 
>> application running.
>> First, since outloud kept on insisting on compiling I did major surgery on 
>> the emacspeak/servers directory and erased anything that wasn't 
>> linux-espeak.  I think emacspeak was getting confused in that directory.
>> After make config and make emacspeak and copying the directory and all 
>> subdirectories that had emacspeak-setup.el to /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp 
>> and adding an (add-list "load-path statement above emacspeak-setup.el line 
>> as suggested in the info page, I had to start emacs which complained it 
>> couldn't find emacspeak-setup.el after being loaded and then I did a 
>> load-library <ret> emacspeak-setup.el <ret> and heard emacspeak finally do 
>> something close to its normal startup including the organ music.
>> Now I'm going to have to investigate to find out why the 
>> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/lisp/lisp/ path wasn't liked by emacs.
>> I think the Make file in the emacspeak directory inadvertently had its exit 
>> statements stripped out if exit is even a valid Makefile command because 
>> the stanza just below emacspeak: was you guessed it outloud:.  My reading 
>> of Makefile code isn't all that professional but all I found was a blank 
>> line between the end of the emacspeak stanza and the outloud: stanza and 
>> unless that's a valid form of exit it's entirely understandable why outloud 
>> kept building even though viavoice wasn't on the machine at the time. Let's 
>> not even talk about searching for existing server software before building 
>> anything, that will add too much complexity to the Makefile most likely.
>> Now I'm going to go study Makefile syntax and see if I can learn enough to 
>> figure out some valid fixes for this one.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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