Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd)

Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> Sat, 13 Aug 2022 14:47:43 -0400 (EDT)
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Well technically freedom scientific does not exist any longer, being bought=
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by another company.
Still, I can respect why they, or nvda have not created their tools for=20
Linux.
That is because as I understand it, Linux is  quite like clay. You can=20
mold a distribution into almost anything. there are various=20
personifications of the system, all sorts of ways and changes and options=
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for creativity.
however adaptive tools are often extensions of physical characteristics,=20
hands, eyes, ears, brains, combinations of these.
To build solid assistive tools one must have a solid  foundation as it=20
were.  that is part of why there have needed to be so few Apple  efforts at=
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inclusion, they  created  with, and then created in-house adaptive tools=20
for various  populations that were built into the system.
Although Microsoft did not bother until much later, in theory at least, the=
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consistency of windows is what makes it possible for freedom or the former=
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gw  micro or nvda to create something that can in theory  work.
Floor for the furniture is somewhat solid.
Just my thoughts,



On Sat, 13 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote:

> I would like to see Freedom Scientific make a Jaws For Linux.
> JFL
> I'd certainly pay the yearly rental fee for it, and it would bring many m=
ore
> users into Linux.
> FS could, with its resources, possibly make it more robust than Orca.
>
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Milan Zamazal" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 12:08 PM
> Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd)
>
>
>>>>>> "KL" =3D=3D Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> writes:
>
>    KL> What bothers me most are his lack of actual qualifications, and
>    KL> absolute dismissal of what he has not experienced..as if he
>    KL> defines Linux usage for everyone.  That attitude is dangerous,
>    KL> because he is educating those outside of the accessibility
>    KL> experiences, who will believe his ignorance is factual.  he has
>    KL> to be expert, it is his job.
>
> Hi Karen,
>
> I know Lukas personally and I admire his skills and qualifications.  I
> also know first hand that he is open to constructive feedback and I
> believe he=E2=80=99d be happy to be corrected about possible technical
> inaccuracies in the interview.  It may be also a good opportunity to
> find out what=E2=80=99s possibly missing in making anybody better informe=
d.
>
> As for =E2=80=9Cabsolute dismissal of what he has not experienced=E2=80=
=9D, what
> reasonable free software alternatives to a less or more standard desktop
> with Orca and a software synthesizer can you see for a common blind user
> who needs to use a fully working web browser, to read and process text
> documents, to be compatible with other computer users, etc.?
>
> And let=E2=80=99s be realistic.  We celebrate every single developer hire=
d to
> improve accessibility.  This tells something about the state of the
> matters.  We cannot expect that a single person will fix all the kinds
> of accessibility problems in all the environments.  Lukas works at his
> job focusing on certain areas currently seen there as urgent ones and I
> appreciate this opportunity.  Anybody else seeing a need to work on
> other areas is welcome to contribute to whatever sees fit, as I do.
>
> Regards,
> Milan
>
>
>
>
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