Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd)
Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> Sat, 13 Aug 2022 14:47:43 -0400 (EDT)
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This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---1404930036-340664518-1660416463=:1254020 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Well technically freedom scientific does not exist any longer, being bought= =20 by another company. Still, I can respect why they, or nvda have not created their tools for=20 Linux. That is because as I understand it, Linux is quite like clay. You can=20 mold a distribution into almost anything. there are various=20 personifications of the system, all sorts of ways and changes and options= =20 for creativity. however adaptive tools are often extensions of physical characteristics,=20 hands, eyes, ears, brains, combinations of these. To build solid assistive tools one must have a solid foundation as it=20 were. that is part of why there have needed to be so few Apple efforts at= =20 inclusion, they created with, and then created in-house adaptive tools=20 for various populations that were built into the system. Although Microsoft did not bother until much later, in theory at least, the= =20 consistency of windows is what makes it possible for freedom or the former= =20 gw micro or nvda to create something that can in theory work. Floor for the furniture is somewhat solid. Just my thoughts, On Sat, 13 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > I would like to see Freedom Scientific make a Jaws For Linux. > JFL > I'd certainly pay the yearly rental fee for it, and it would bring many m= ore > users into Linux. > FS could, with its resources, possibly make it more robust than Orca. > > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Milan Zamazal" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) > > >>>>>> "KL" =3D=3D Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> writes: > > KL> What bothers me most are his lack of actual qualifications, and > KL> absolute dismissal of what he has not experienced..as if he > KL> defines Linux usage for everyone. That attitude is dangerous, > KL> because he is educating those outside of the accessibility > KL> experiences, who will believe his ignorance is factual. he has > KL> to be expert, it is his job. > > Hi Karen, > > I know Lukas personally and I admire his skills and qualifications. I > also know first hand that he is open to constructive feedback and I > believe he=E2=80=99d be happy to be corrected about possible technical > inaccuracies in the interview. It may be also a good opportunity to > find out what=E2=80=99s possibly missing in making anybody better informe= d. > > As for =E2=80=9Cabsolute dismissal of what he has not experienced=E2=80= =9D, what > reasonable free software alternatives to a less or more standard desktop > with Orca and a software synthesizer can you see for a common blind user > who needs to use a fully working web browser, to read and process text > documents, to be compatible with other computer users, etc.? > > And let=E2=80=99s be realistic. We celebrate every single developer hire= d to > improve accessibility. This tells something about the state of the > matters. We cannot expect that a single person will fix all the kinds > of accessibility problems in all the environments. Lukas works at his > job focusing on certain areas currently seen there as urgent ones and I > appreciate this opportunity. Anybody else seeing a need to work on > other areas is welcome to contribute to whatever sees fit, as I do. > > Regards, > Milan > > > > ---1404930036-340664518-1660416463=:1254020--