Fedora Workstation Working Group Meeting 2025-10-07 (Gemini-assisted Summary)

Michael Catanzaro via desktop <[email protected]> Tue, 07 Oct 2025 10:33:21 -0500
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Summary

Matthias Clasen discussed migrating to Fedora Forgejo and coordinating 
Fedora 43 marketing efforts, including release notes and new features, 
while Michael Catanzaro highlighted the `libpeas` and `pygobject` 
transitions. Jens-Ulrik Petersen reported a blocker issue with the 
default CJK input method selection in gnome-initial-setup. Matthias 
Clasen announced his intention to step down from leading the 
Workstation WG calls. The main talking points were migration plans, 
marketing, bug resolution, new features, and leadership transition.

Details

Migration to Fedora Forgejo

Matthias Clasen introduced the topic of migrating from Pagure to Fedora 
Forgejo for the issue tracker and setting up a workstation organization 
there. Michael Catanzaro noted that Fedora Forgejo is not yet ready, 
but they would like to move the issue tracker there soon. Neal Gompa 
(Conan Kudo) clarified that the issue tracker would be named 
"workstation/wg" under the workstation working group namespace to 
centralize all related items like workstation docs.

Test Day and Bug Triage

Matthias Clasen inquired about the progress of the test day and bug 
resolution, particularly noting some incoming issues in the Matrix 
room. Jens-Ulrik Petersen reported finding an issue where the default 
input method for CJK languages disappears after the initial setup in 
GNOME, proposing it as a blocker due to its impact and the impending 
final freeze date. Tomáš Popela provided an update on a GTK 3 issue, 
mentioning that a proposed fix improved the situation but did not fully 
resolve it.

Fedora 43 Marketing and Release Notes

Matthias Clasen initiated the collection of material for Fedora 43 
marketing, including release notes and a magazine article, and created 
an issue for tracking these contributions. Michael Catanzaro 
highlighted the `libpeas` and `pygobject` transitions to 
`girepository-3.0` as a significant API break, noting that it needs 
someone knowledgeable to explain the changes. Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) 
emphasized the importance of mentioning color management improvements 
and color-profiled wallpapers, as users of Fedora Workstation marketing 
materials might not read GNOME release notes.

New Features and Changes for Fedora 43

The discussion covered several user-facing changes and new features for 
Fedora 43, including some details about the brightness slider behavior 
with HDR monitors, which will be increasingly common on laptop 
displays. Michael Catanzaro confirmed that Showtime was added as a new 
default application in this cycle, while Matthias Clasen noted the ISO 
size increase to 3GB. Jens-Ulrik Petersen mentioned the adoption of the 
COLRv1 format for emojis and efforts to improve system UI fonts, 
especially for Arabic and Indic scripts, while acknowledging that this 
is a complex area.

Future Developments (Fedora 44 and Beyond)

Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) suggested potential Fedora 44 changes, such as 
moving the boot partition to a Btrfs subvolume, which would offer 
advantages like easier resizing and future encryption capabilities. 
Allan Day mentioned Adrian's session restore work and Joan's 
passwordless login work as likely developments for the next release, 
potentially supporting hardware keys for login. Matthias Clasen added 
that they are working on improving symbolic and SVG icons by adding 
animations and transitions to make the UI feel more modern.

Leadership Transition for Workstation WG Meetings

Matthias Clasen announced their intention to step down from leading the 
Workstation WG calls for the next cycle and proposed that someone else 
take over. Michael Catanzaro volunteered to lead the meetings again and 
committed to sending agendas, which Matthias Clasen appreciated as an 
improvement.

Package Maintainer Responsibilities

Tomáš Popela raised concerns about unmaintained GNOME packages, 
particularly those previously managed by Kalev. Matthias Clasen and 
Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) supported initiating the non-responsive 
maintainer process to ensure packages do not fall into disrepair, with 
Matthias Clasen offering to send a final email to Kalev.

Suggested next steps

 * Matthias Clasen will ask Adrian about the GDM changes to understand 
the input method issue and consult Carlos for further ideas on the GTK 
3 issue.
 * Matthias Clasen will inquire about user-facing changes on the 
Nouveau and firmware side related to NVIDIA upstream driver development.
 * Matthias Clasen will file an issue for Fedora 44 changes.
 * Michael Catanzaro will take over leading the calls for the next 
cycle and will send out agendas.
 * Matthias Clasen will send an email to Kalev requesting him to add 
gnome-sig as an admin to various packages.
 * Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) will alert the group when there is an action 
to take regarding the migration from Pagure to Fedora Forgejo.
 * The group will contribute additional ideas for marketing and release 
notes to the existing issue.


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