Fedora Workstation Working Group Meeting Notes, 28 April

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# Fedora Workstation Working Group meeting, 28 April 2026

## Attendees

- Allan
- Chris
- Luigi
- Matthias
- Michael
- Nieves

## Rotating working group chair

- Today is the last day of Michael's chair duty for the Fedora 44
- Last week the group agreed to rotate the chair on a monthly basis
- Matthias was next on the list, but has requested not to do it in May.
Apparently that means it's Allan next.
- Protocol for chairs:
  - Review open tickets
  - Tag tickets with the meeting tag to put them on the agenda
  - Send out the agenda each week
  - Keep track of who the secretary is
- Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 volunteers to be chair in May (thanks Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1!)
- Luigi suggests that we have docs on how to chair the group
  - ACTION: Michael to write a chairing guide

## Replace gnome-keyring-daemon with oo7-daemon #506

- Topic is: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/506
- The GNOME keyring maintainers are in favour
- Michael, Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 and Matthias are in favour. The stack needs to b=
e
modernized.
- ACTION: Michael/Matthias will additionally pursue making the change in
gnome-build-meta
- AGREED: replacement approved

## Automatically update appstream-data #507

- Topic is: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/507
- See: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/appstream-data
- Apps can disappear in GNOME Software for periods due to this issue
- We need to regenerate the metadata automatically; hughsie is busy with
other things
- In the past it has been difficult to get something built automatically on
Fedora infra when it isn't a package, but things could have changed since
then
- Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 recommends that we ask Kevin from CPE about it (he's on t=
he
workstation channel)
- ACTION: Matthias to do this

## Remove remnants of ABRT #503

- Topic is: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/503
- We discussed this last week with Jeff. The conclusion was that we want
Workstation and KDE to do the same thing.
- Jeff also suggested that we post another call for volunteers on Discourse
- Michael proposes that we remove abrt for Fedora 45, and volunteers to
coordinate with the KDE team
- AGREED: there were no objections, removal is approved

## Enable a subset of Flathub by default #492

- Topic: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/492
- This would require a change proposal and FESCo approval
- Michael wants to hear opinions - there are pros and cons
- Michael has concerns about the security of Flathub builds compared with
Fedora builds
- Other issues raised by Michael:
  - Apps stuck on EoL runtimes
  - Open source apps not being built from source
- If we do include a subset of Flathub, we will probably want to rethink
the 3rd party repos
- There is a proposal from Michael in #492:
  - Flathub would only build open source software from source, and would
expose only that set of apps
  - The "open" Flathub apps would then be enabled by default in Fedora,
with lower priority than Fedora Flatpaks
- Suggestion: WG members to review the proposal in the ticket so we can
discuss more

Next meeting: May 5th

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<div dir=3D"ltr"># Fedora Workstation Working Group meeting, 28 April 2026<=
br><br>## Attendees<br><br>- Allan<br>- Chris<br>- Luigi<br>- Matthias<br>-=
 Michael<br>- Nieves<br><br>## Rotating working group chair<br><br>- Today =
is the last day of Michael&#39;s chair duty for the Fedora 44 <br>- Last we=
ek the group agreed to rotate the chair on a monthly basis<br>- Matthias wa=
s next on the list, but has requested not to do it in May. Apparently that =
means it&#39;s Allan next.<br>- Protocol for chairs:<br>=C2=A0 - Review ope=
n tickets<br>=C2=A0 - Tag tickets with the meeting tag to put them on the a=
genda<br>=C2=A0 - Send out the agenda each week<br>=C2=A0 - Keep track of w=
ho the secretary is<br>- Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 volunteers to be chair in May (tha=
nks Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1!)<br>- Luigi suggests that we have docs on how to chair=
 the group<br>=C2=A0 - ACTION: Michael to write a chairing guide<br><br>## =
Replace gnome-keyring-daemon with oo7-daemon #506<br><br>- Topic is: <a hre=
f=3D"https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/506">https:=
//forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/506</a><br>- The GNOME=
 keyring maintainers are in favour<br>- Michael, Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 and Matthi=
as are in favour. The stack needs to be modernized.<br>- ACTION: Michael/Ma=
tthias will additionally pursue making the change in gnome-build-meta<br>- =
AGREED: replacement approved<br><br>## Automatically update appstream-data =
#507<br><br>- Topic is: <a href=3D"https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstat=
ion/tickets/issues/507">https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets=
/issues/507</a><br>- See: <a href=3D"https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/app=
stream-data">https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/appstream-data</a><br>- App=
s can disappear in GNOME Software for periods due to this issue<br>- We nee=
d to regenerate the metadata automatically; hughsie is busy with other thin=
gs<br>- In the past it has been difficult to get something built automatica=
lly on Fedora infra when it isn&#39;t a package, but things could have chan=
ged since then<br>- Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 recommends that we ask Kevin from CPE a=
bout it (he&#39;s on the workstation channel)<br>- ACTION: Matthias to do t=
his<br><br>## Remove remnants of ABRT #503 <br><div><br></div><div>- Topic =
is: <a href=3D"https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/5=
03">https://forge.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/503</a></div=
>- We discussed this last week with Jeff. The conclusion was that we want W=
orkstation and KDE to do the same thing.<br>- Jeff also suggested that we p=
ost another call for volunteers on Discourse<br>- Michael proposes that we =
remove abrt for Fedora 45, and volunteers to coordinate with the KDE team<b=
r>- AGREED: there were no objections, removal is approved<br><br>## Enable =
a subset of Flathub by default #492<br><br>- Topic: <a href=3D"https://forg=
e.fedoraproject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/492">https://forge.fedorapro=
ject.org/workstation/tickets/issues/492</a><br>- This would require a chang=
e proposal and FESCo approval<br>- Michael wants to hear opinions - there a=
re pros and cons<br>- Michael has concerns about the security of Flathub bu=
ilds compared with Fedora builds<br>- Other issues raised by Michael:<br>=
=C2=A0 - Apps stuck on EoL runtimes<br>=C2=A0 - Open source apps not being =
built from source<br>- If we do include a subset of Flathub, we will probab=
ly want to rethink the 3rd party repos<br>- There is a proposal from Michae=
l in #492:<br>=C2=A0 - Flathub would only build open source software from s=
ource, and would expose only that set of apps<br>=C2=A0 - The &quot;open&qu=
ot; Flathub apps would then be enabled by default in Fedora, with lower pri=
ority than Fedora Flatpaks<br>- Suggestion: WG members to review the propos=
al in the ticket so we can discuss more<br><br>Next meeting: May 5th<br></d=
iv>

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