Re: Node.js Metapackage Testing & Feedback

On 6/23/26 7:24 AM, Jan Stanek wrote:

Hi,

> Hi there!
> I was on PTO for a while, so I did not reply immediately, but I'll try
> to share my view on some of the topics mentioned here now. Sorry for
> the delay.

No problem. Thanks for chiming in!

>> For the unversioned metapackages, may I suggest only having nodejs and nodejs-npm without the separate -bin subpackages like we have for the versioned packages?
>> I don't think the separate unversioned -bin packages make sense here, since AFAIU the goal of the unversioned metapackages is for users to always get the primary version and have that be the system default.
> The "and" in the last sentence was not in the original idea. I have
> always seen those two as orthogonal: You have `nodejs` installed when
> you want to "roll"/"autoinstall" the distro-recommended stream, but
> that doesn't say anything about which stream is `/usr/bin/node`. If
> you want the symlink to also follow the recommendation, you'll have
> `nodejs-bin` installed*in addition*.
> 
> Granted, I don't think many people would use it this way, so I'm
> willing to not provide this option if it causes problems; but I would
> not remove it just to reduce the number of generated packages.

I think it just adds unnecessary confusion and complexity to uncouple 
these ideas. If there's no guarantee that different users installing 
`nodejs` on the same version of Fedora get the same version of nodejs as 
/usr/bin/node, then I don't think having a primary version makes much 
sense at all.
> 
> Additionaly, there is also the matter of consistency. If we keep the
> -bin packages, the rule of thumb is simple: You swap which stream is
> `/usr/bin/node` by swapping the -bin package: `dnf swap --allowerasing
> nodejs-bin nodejs24-bin`. If we get rid of them, it will now be "You
> swap the streams by swapping the -bin packages, with the exception of
> rolling stream, when you need to switch the main one": `dnf swap
> --allowerasing nodejs nodejs24-bin`. For this reason alone, I'm still
> in favor of keeping the packages around for the rolling stream as
> well.
Can nodejs Provide nodejs-bin and nodejs-npm Provide nodejs-npm-bin so 
there's not a need for two extra metapackages but "dnf swap 
--allowerasing nodejs-bin nodejs24-bin" should still work?

All the best,
Maxwell
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