Re: How can we improve the Changes Process?

Maxwell G <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Kashyap,

On 6/29/26 9:47 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote:
> IIUC, currently, these are the places a "change
> proposal" goes:

> So much bloat.  IMHO, all of this should be drastically culled and
> collapsed into one tool, if possible.
As Ben notes, part of this is by design and accounts for the different 
states/stages of the Changes process, but ideally we can simplify parts 
of this and make it easier for Changes to move between the steps without 
manual work or opportunities for error.

> (2) Wiki change is copied to devel list

This is needed for the community feedback stage. The current process 
involves copying the whole proposal. This allows people and reply and 
quote individual parts of the proposal.

 > (3) Wiki change is copied to Discourse (this splits the discussion; and
 >      adds broken formatting)

I agree with you here, but if we do decide to keep Discourse, the new 
process definitely needs to remove the possibility for these formatting 
errors to creep in.

 > (4) FESCo ticket - voting

FESCo votes are exclusively tracked in the FESCo tracker, so I don't 
think we want to change this part.

 > (5) Bugzilla - some other kind of tracking?

After FESCo approves a Change, Bugzilla is used to track the Change's 
implementation, and any bugs identified with the Change's implementation 
are supposed to Block that bug. If we moved to a different bug tracker, 
I assume this part would change but not go away completely.

All the best,
Maxwell
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