Re: F45 Change Proposal: Sequoia opengpgverify (self-contained)

Peter Pentchev <[email protected]> Tue, 21 Jul 2026 19:20:33 +0300

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On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 12:12:22PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 12:03 PM Peter Pentchev <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 11:50:01AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > And calling it %openpgpverify is just nonsense. *If* I were to accept
> > > a rename of the macro, I would *only* reasonably consider %pgpverify,
> > > since that's the name of the format.
> >
> > Um. No?
> >
> > PGP was the name of a specific implementation that, at some point,
> > became commercial and trademark-protected. Also, it was PGP Inc.
> > themselves that proposed the OpenPGP name for the standard :)
> >
> > The standard itself has always been called OpenPGP.
> >
> 
> Sure, but that's not the name of the *format*. It's still PGP. OpenPGP
> is the standard that describes the PGP format.

No, OpenPGP is a standard which describes the format of an OpenPGP message,
an OpenPGP key packet, an OpenPGP signature packet, etc. The only place
where the standard mentions "PGP" is in delimiters of the ASCII-armored
packets, and this part is pretty much only there for compatibility
reasons. I agree that changing it would break *a lot* of things, but
it is not the name of the format; nowadays it is merely a sequence of bytes
used to denote specific portions of the packet.

> Anyway, that detail doesn't matter for my larger point.

Well, yeah, but you did low-key propose something that is not based on
facts and history :) And yeah, sorry, I will stop now :)

G'luck,
Peter

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