Re: F46 Change Proposal: Changes Discussion Only On Devel List
Aoife Moloney via devel <[email protected]> Mon, 27 Jul 2026 16:26:59 +0100
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--===============7598028930166759571== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007ced760657995e61" --0000000000007ced760657995e61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reposting here what I said on discourse (the irony): As the change wrangler, I am in favour of finding a way to centralise feedback on changes when they are announced to make it easier for everyone to keep up with the conversation. (It would also reduce *my* workload by only needing to post the change in one place - so yay, a little less work for me ;) ) My 2c is is that the change process is the mechanism/process that FESCo uses to manage each Fedora Linux release. That is a big task, and if the current process is making that difficult for FESCo members to do, then I am glad we are looking at changes to make this easier. I would like to resuggest @bcotton <https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/u/bcotton>=E2=80=99s suggestion he ma= de on the devel-list: use the email lists for the announce and discussion, and post one post linking changes announced on discourse highlighting that the changes are live. This could be a potential middle ground. I also lean to batch-posting changes, so this means there would be one post every week/every few days containing the current changes announced, their summaries and links to their posts on the devel-list. I do like @bookwar <https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/u/bookwar> 's suggestion in point 1*, but Im not convinced the changes process should be included as a way to get new contributors to the project. I feel like someone proposing a change to Fedora Linux is already part of the project for a time, so maybe its a way to retain contributors? I dunno, thats a topic for another thread in any case :) *Please see the discourse thread for the full suggestion. I wont even attempt to Tl:dr in case I mis-quote the idea. On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 8:58=E2=80=AFPM Evan Goode via devel < [email protected]> wrote: > +1. I don't have a strong opinion which of the two platforms to use > (mailing list vs Discourse) but it would be best if there was one rather > than two. > > Evan > > On 7/22/26 12:10, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce wrote: > > Wiki - > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ChangesDiscussionOnlyOnDevelList > > Discussion thread - > > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f46-change-proposal-changes-discus= sion-only-on-devel-list/197431 > > > > =3D=3D Summary =3D=3D > > Starting with Fedora Linux 46, discussion of Fedora Changes as part of > > the [ > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/operations/pgm%20guide/changes/ > > Changes Process] will happen solely on the devel mailing list and will > > no longer be simultaneously discussed on Fedora Discussion (the > > Discourse forum). Changes will continue to be announced on Discourse > > in read-only topics to provide a bridge between the two platforms. > > This Change aims to improve communication by avoiding having two > > separate mediums for the same discussion. > > > > =3D=3D Owner =3D=3D > > * Name: [[User:gotmax23| Maxwell G]], [[User:ngompa| Neal Gompa]], > > [[User:decathorpe| Fabio Valentini]], [[User:salimma | Michel Lind]] > > * Email: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > > [email protected] > > > > > > =3D=3D Detailed Description =3D=3D > > Starting with Fedora Linux 46, discussion of Fedora Changes as part of > > the [ > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/operations/pgm%20guide/changes/ > > Changes Process] will happen solely on the devel mailing list and will > > no longer be simultaneously discussed on Fedora Discussion (the > > Discourse forum). Changes will be announced on Discourse in read-only > > topics with links to the wiki page and devel discussion for each > > Change to provide a lightweight bridge between the two platforms. > > > > This Change aims to improve communication by avoiding having two > > separate mediums for the same discussion. The current "split brain" > > approach has been a significant pain point for Change Owners, FESCo > > members, and other project contributors attempting to follow Changes > > feedback discussion. Contributors have noted this as a cause of > > burnout. > > > > If technically feasible to use on read-only Discourse threads, we will > > keep the bot enabled that creates non-binding polls ("How do you feel > > about the proposal as written?") to collect community feedback on > > Changes. We will also adapt the bot to disable the anonymous results > > option on the Discourse polls so individual voices are better heard. > > FESCo will consider the polls alongside feedback on the devel list > > when voting on proposed Changes. > > > > =3D=3D Feedback =3D=3D > > There was some pre-Change discussion in > > "[ > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]= rg/thread/Q7KX3BDBUPCNOPVALP5GKR2MHTWB6ASD/ > > How can we improve the Changes Process?]" > > ([ > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]= rg/message/VPQXOLZV3NVUOVTF4VCUEZU2BEFCQVQ5/ > > Maxwell's summary/takeaways]) on the devel list. This discussion was > > covered by LWN in > > [https://lwn.net/Articles/1081557/#:~:text=3DChanges%20to%20changes > > Fedora grapples with change =C2=A7 Changes to changes]. > > > > Additional feedback was provided in a > > [ > https://matrix.to/#/!DMptnKvPTdgoULzUTV:fedoraproject.org/$MuM8JzFoXojgU1= x1LJMUO1Vn6kqOzTOjxSaLwqdjvdw?via=3Dfedoraproject.org&via=3Dfedora.im&via= =3Dmatrix.org&web-instance%5Belement.io%5D%3Dchat.fedoraproject.org > > discussion in the #devel room on Matrix]. Feedback about Changes > > Discussion on Discourse was largely negative. Multiple contributors > > expressed that the current state of Changes discussion led to burnout. > > > > '''Q/A:''' > > > > * Why not just use Discourse for all Change Proposals and stop > > discussing them on the mailing list? > > ** The Change Owners do not wish to alienate or exclude existing > > contributors who rely on the mailing list workflow to participate in > > discussion. Other Fedora development discussion takes place on the > > devel mailing list, so it does not make sense to migrate only Changes > > discussion. Additionally, we believe that Discourse is an ill-suited > > platform for long, threaded discussions surrounding Fedora Changes. > > This position was discussed in more depth in the Matrix and devel list > > discussions linked above. > > * What about the email interface for Discourse? > > ** The email interface for Discourse is not comparable to a mailing > > list, and it de-prioritizes email users. The Discourse email support > > delays sending email notifications, makes formatting look out of place > > on responses sent via email, and email users miss out on reactions and > > other types of engagement. The ability to reply by email does not > > solve the issues with Discourse as a platform. > > > > =3D=3D Benefit to Fedora =3D=3D > > This Change aims to address a significant pain point in discussion of > > Fedora Changes. This should also simplify the Change Wrangler's work. > > > > =3D=3D Scope =3D=3D > > * Proposal owners: > > ** Update documentation and FESCo issue templates to clarify that the > > devel mailing list is the canonical medium for Changes discussion. > > ** Work with the Change Wrangler to implement the necessary process > changes. > > > > * Other developers: > > ** Change wrangler: Announce Changes as usual on the devel-announce > > list. Stop copying and formatting Changes Proposal wikitext to/for > > Discourse. Create read-only posts on Discourse with links to the Wiki > > post and lists.fedoraproject.org discussion thread for each Change. > > ** Implement the proposed Changes to the Discourse voting poll > > creation bot. If these Changes are infeasible, disable the bot. > > > > * Release engineering: > > [https://forge.fedoraproject.org/releng/tickets/issues #Releng issue > > number] > > > > * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change) > > > > * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) > > > > * Alignment with the Fedora Strategy: > > > > > > =3D=3D Upgrade/compatibility impact =3D=3D > > > > > > =3D=3D Early Testing (Optional) =3D=3D > > > > > > =3D=3D How To Test =3D=3D > > > > > > =3D=3D User Experience =3D=3D > > Users, contributors, Change Owners, and FESCo members will all have > > one less place to follow for discussion about proposed Fedora Changes. > > Changes will continue to be announced on Fedora Discussion, and anyone > > currently subscribed via Discourse can follow links to the > > corresponding thread on lists.fedoraproject.org, which provides a > > lightweight web interface (Hyperkitty) to respond to list threads. > > Additionally, we will no longer post misformatted Change proposal > > texts on Fedora Discussion, instead providing a link to the canonical > > proposal on the Fedora Wiki. If technically feasible, the community > > feedback straw polls will remain enabled on Discourse. > > > > =3D=3D Dependencies =3D=3D > > > > > > =3D=3D Contingency Plan =3D=3D > > * Contingency mechanism: N/A (not a System Wide Change) > > * Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change) > > * Blocks release? N/A (not a System Wide Change) > > > > =3D=3D Documentation =3D=3D > > N/A (not a System Wide Change) > > > > =3D=3D Release Notes =3D=3D > > > > -- > Evan Goode (he/him) > DNF Technical Lead > Red Hat, Inc. | Atlanta, GA | ET > > -- > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]= rg > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/tickets/issues/new > --=20 Aoife Moloney Fedora Operations Architect Fedora Project Matrix: @amoloney:fedora.im IRC: amoloney --0000000000007ced760657995e61 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Reposting here what I said on discourse (the irony):<= /div><div><br></div><div><p dir=3D"auto">As the change wrangler, I am in fa= vour of finding a way to centralise feedback on changes when they are announced to make it=20 easier for everyone to keep up with the conversation. (It would also=20 reduce <em>my</em> workload by only needing to post the change in one place= - so yay, a little less work for me ;)=C2=A0)</p> <p dir=3D"auto">My 2c is is that the change process is the=20 mechanism/process that FESCo uses to manage each Fedora Linux release.=20 That is a big task, and if the current process is making that difficult=20 for FESCo members to do, then I am glad we are looking at changes to=20 make this easier.</p> <p dir=3D"auto">I would like to resuggest <a class=3D"gmail-mention" href= =3D"https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/u/bcotton">@bcotton</a>=E2=80=99s suggestion he made on the devel-list: use the email lists for the=20 announce and discussion, and post one post linking changes announced on=20 discourse highlighting that the changes are live. This could be a=20 potential middle ground. I also lean to batch-posting changes, so this=20 means there would be one post every week/every few days containing the=20 current changes announced, their summaries and links to their posts on=20 the devel-list.</p> <p dir=3D"auto">I do like <a class=3D"gmail-mention" href=3D"https://discus= sion.fedoraproject.org/u/bookwar">@bookwar</a> 's suggestion in point 1*, but Im not convinced the changes process=20 should be included as a way to get new contributors to the project. I=20 feel like someone proposing a change to Fedora Linux is already part of=20 the project for a time, so maybe its a way to retain contributors? I=20 dunno, thats a topic for another thread in any case :)</p><p dir=3D"auto"><= br></p><p dir=3D"auto"><br></p><p dir=3D"auto">*Please see the discourse th= read for the full suggestion. I wont even attempt to Tl:dr in case I mis-qu= ote the idea.</p><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_= container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 8:= 58=E2=80=AFPM Evan Goode via devel <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= project.org">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockqu= ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px= solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">+1. I don't have a strong opi= nion which of the two platforms to use (mailing list vs Discourse) but it w= ould be best if there was one rather than two.<br> <br> Evan<br> <br> On 7/22/26 12:10, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce wrote:<br> > Wiki - <a href=3D"https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ChangesDiscus= sionOnlyOnDevelList" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://fedorapro= ject.org/wiki/Changes/ChangesDiscussionOnlyOnDevelList</a><br> > Discussion thread -<br> > <a href=3D"https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f46-change-proposal-= changes-discussion-only-on-devel-list/197431" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"= _blank">https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f46-change-proposal-changes-= discussion-only-on-devel-list/197431</a><br> > <br> > =3D=3D Summary =3D=3D<br> > Starting with Fedora Linux 46, discussion of Fedora Changes as part of= <br> > the [<a href=3D"https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/operations/pgm%20= guide/changes/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.fedorapro= ject.org/en-US/operations/pgm%20guide/changes/</a><br> > Changes Process] will happen solely on the devel mailing list and will= <br> > no longer be simultaneously discussed on Fedora Discussion (the<br> > Discourse forum). Changes will continue to be announced on Discourse<b= r> > in read-only topics to provide a bridge between the two platforms.<br> > This Change aims to improve communication by avoiding having two<br> > separate mediums for the same discussion.<br> > <br> > =3D=3D Owner =3D=3D<br> > * Name: [[User:gotmax23| Maxwell G]], [[User:ngompa| Neal Gompa]],<br> > [[User:decathorpe| Fabio Valentini]], [[User:salimma | Michel Lind]]<b= r> > * Email: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">maxwell@= gtmx.me</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">ngompa= [email protected]</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"= >[email protected]</a>,<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">michel@mic= hel-slm.name</a><br> > <br> > <br> > =3D=3D Detailed Description =3D=3D<br> > Starting with Fedora Linux 46, discussion of Fedora Changes as part of= <br> > the [<a href=3D"https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/operations/pgm%20= guide/changes/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.fedorapro= ject.org/en-US/operations/pgm%20guide/changes/</a><br> > Changes Process] will happen solely on the devel mailing list and will= <br> > no longer be simultaneously discussed on Fedora Discussion (the<br> > Discourse forum). Changes will be announced on Discourse in read-only<= br> > topics with links to the wiki page and devel discussion for each<br> > Change to provide a lightweight bridge between the two platforms.<br> > <br> > This Change aims to improve communication by avoiding having two<br> > separate mediums for the same discussion. The current "split brai= n"<br> > approach has been a significant pain point for Change Owners, FESCo<br= > > members, and other project contributors attempting to follow Changes<b= r> > feedback discussion. Contributors have noted this as a cause of<br> > burnout.<br> > <br> > If technically feasible to use on read-only Discourse threads, we will= <br> > keep the bot enabled that creates non-binding polls ("How do you = feel<br> > about the proposal as written?") to collect community feedback on= <br> > Changes. We will also adapt the bot to disable the anonymous results<b= r> > option on the Discourse polls so individual voices are better heard.<b= r> > FESCo will consider the polls alongside feedback on the devel list<br> > when voting on proposed Changes.<br> > <br> > =3D=3D Feedback =3D=3D<br> > There was some pre-Change discussion in<br> > "[<a href=3D"https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@= lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/Q7KX3BDBUPCNOPVALP5GKR2MHTWB6ASD/" rel=3D"no= referrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/d= [email protected]/thread/Q7KX3BDBUPCNOPVALP5GKR2MHTWB6ASD/</a><b= r> > How can we improve the Changes Process?]"<br> > ([<a href=3D"https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists= .fedoraproject.org/message/VPQXOLZV3NVUOVTF4VCUEZU2BEFCQVQ5/" rel=3D"norefe= rrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel= @lists.fedoraproject.org/message/VPQXOLZV3NVUOVTF4VCUEZU2BEFCQVQ5/</a><br> > Maxwell's summary/takeaways]) on the devel list. This discussion w= as<br> > covered by LWN in<br> > [<a href=3D"https://lwn.net/Articles/1081557/#:~:text=3DChanges%20to%2= 0changes" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lwn.net/Articles/108= 1557/#:~:text=3DChanges%20to%20changes</a><br> > Fedora grapples with change =C2=A7 Changes to changes].<br> > <br> > Additional feedback was provided in a<br> > [<a href=3D"https://matrix.to/#/!DMptnKvPTdgoULzUTV:fedoraproject.org/= $MuM8JzFoXojgU1x1LJMUO1Vn6kqOzTOjxSaLwqdjvdw?via=3Dfedoraproject.org&vi= a=3Dfedora.im&via=3Dmatrix.org&web-instance%5Belement.io%5D%3Dchat.= fedoraproject.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://matrix.to/#= /!DMptnKvPTdgoULzUTV:fedoraproject.org/$MuM8JzFoXojgU1x1LJMUO1Vn6kqOzTOjxSa= Lwqdjvdw?via=3Dfedoraproject.org&via=3Dfedora.im&via=3Dmatrix.org&a= mp;web-instance%5Belement.io%5D%3Dchat.fedoraproject.org</a><br> > discussion in the #devel room on Matrix]. Feedback about Changes<br> > Discussion on Discourse was largely negative. Multiple contributors<br= > > expressed that the current state of Changes discussion led to burnout.= <br> > <br> > '''Q/A:'''<br> > <br> > * Why not just use Discourse for all Change Proposals and stop<br> > discussing them on the mailing list?<br> > ** The Change Owners do not wish to alienate or exclude existing<br> > contributors who rely on the mailing list workflow to participate in<b= r> > discussion. Other Fedora development discussion takes place on the<br> > devel mailing list, so it does not make sense to migrate only Changes<= br> > discussion.=C2=A0 Additionally, we believe that Discourse is an ill-su= ited<br> > platform for long, threaded discussions surrounding Fedora Changes.<br= > > This position was discussed in more depth in the Matrix and devel list= <br> > discussions linked above.<br> > * What about the email interface for Discourse?<br> > ** The email interface for Discourse is not comparable to a mailing<br= > > list, and it de-prioritizes email users. The Discourse email support<b= r> > delays sending email notifications, makes formatting look out of place= <br> > on responses sent via email, and email users miss out on reactions and= <br> > other types of engagement. The ability to reply by email does not<br> > solve the issues with Discourse as a platform.<br> > <br> > =3D=3D Benefit to Fedora =3D=3D<br> > This Change aims to address a significant pain point in discussion of<= br> > Fedora Changes. This should also simplify the Change Wrangler's wo= rk.<br> > <br> > =3D=3D Scope =3D=3D<br> > * Proposal owners:<br> > ** Update documentation and FESCo issue templates to clarify that the<= br> > devel mailing list is the canonical medium for Changes discussion.<br> > ** Work with the Change Wrangler to implement the necessary process ch= anges.<br> > <br> > * Other developers:<br> > ** Change wrangler: Announce Changes as usual on the devel-announce<br= > > list. Stop copying and formatting Changes Proposal wikitext to/for<br> > Discourse. Create read-only posts on Discourse with links to the Wiki<= br> > post and <a href=3D"http://lists.fedoraproject.org" rel=3D"noreferrer"= target=3D"_blank">lists.fedoraproject.org</a> discussion thread for each C= hange.<br> > ** Implement the proposed Changes to the Discourse voting poll<br> > creation bot. If these Changes are infeasible, disable the bot.<br> > <br> > * Release engineering:<br> > [<a href=3D"https://forge.fedoraproject.org/releng/tickets/issues" rel= =3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://forge.fedoraproject.org/releng/ti= ckets/issues</a> #Releng issue<br> > number]<br> > <br> > * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change)<br> > <br> > * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)<br> > <br> > * Alignment with the Fedora Strategy:<br> > <br> > <br> > =3D=3D Upgrade/compatibility impact =3D=3D<br> > <br> > <br> > =3D=3D Early Testing (Optional) =3D=3D<br> > <br> > <br> > =3D=3D How To Test =3D=3D<br> > <br> > <br> > =3D=3D User Experience =3D=3D<br> > Users, contributors, Change Owners, and FESCo members will all have<br= > > one less place to follow for discussion about proposed Fedora Changes.= <br> > Changes will continue to be announced on Fedora Discussion, and anyone= <br> > currently subscribed via Discourse can follow links to the<br> > corresponding thread on <a href=3D"http://lists.fedoraproject.org" rel= =3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">lists.fedoraproject.org</a>, which provid= es a<br> > lightweight web interface (Hyperkitty) to respond to list threads.<br> > Additionally, we will no longer post misformatted Change proposal<br> > texts on Fedora Discussion, instead providing a link to the canonical<= br> > proposal on the Fedora Wiki. If technically feasible, the community<br= > > feedback straw polls will remain enabled on Discourse.<br> > <br> > =3D=3D Dependencies =3D=3D<br> > <br> > <br> > =3D=3D Contingency Plan =3D=3D<br> > * Contingency mechanism: N/A (not a System Wide Change)<br> > * Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change)<br> > * Blocks release? 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