Re: A general plea: please stop creating static, manually-updated lists of Fedora releases

On Thu, Aug 20, 2026 at 1:43 PM Adam Williamson
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Once again, I'm on a round of "branching happened and all these things
> that have static lists of Fedora releases didn't notice".
>
> Exhibit A: https://gitlab.com/fedora/bootc/base-images/-/work_items/83
> Exhibit B: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/2210
> Exhibit C: https://gitlab.com/fedora/bootc/base-images/-/blob/main/RELEASE.md#part-3-managing-fedora-versions-in-konflux
>
> yes these all happen to be bootc/coreos-related, but there are plenty
> of offenders, that's just where I'm looking today.
>
> The Fedora release cycle moves quite fast. Something important happens
> approximately every two months: a release branches, or goes stable, or
> goes EOL. You are not going to reliably keep up with this manually, and
> you should not be trying.
>
> There are two fairly solid ways you can check on what releases exist
> and what state they're in:
>
> 1. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/releases
> 2. https://fedorapeople.org/groups/qa/metadata/release.json

The fact that both of these services are gated behind Anubis is not
going to help automated tooling access them at all...

--
Aaron

> The former has more information but requires a bit more effort to work
> with. The latter is minimal but easy to work with (all you really need
> to know is that, if the 'branched' list is empty, rawhide maps to
> 'highest stable plus 1'; if branched is populated, rawhide maps to
> 'highest branched plus 1'). Both are ultimately manually updated, but
> the relevant releng SOPs now all have "update these things" in them, so
> they get updated reliably. Certainly more reliably than your manual
> list.
>
> It would be really, really great if, when folks are inventing new
> things like this, they would handle this smartly. Either do not *have*
> a "list of known releases" at all, or ensure there is a reliable,
> automated process that updates it.
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