ELN SIG meeting minutes for 25 Aug '26

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Summary from Bot Aurelien:

● **Toolbox Image Building Strategy**

   ○ A discussion was held on how to build ELN's toolbox images to 
achieve better parity with RHEL (which uses Konflux) and CentOS Stream 
(which currently has no official toolbox image).
   ○ Options discussed for ELN's image builds include:
     1. Migrating to `image-builder` to potentially align with CentOS 
Stream.
     2. Continuing to use the current Kiwi-based process.
     3. Waiting for Konflux to be available in Fedora/CentOS and then 
migrating.
   ○ The lack of a CentOS Stream toolbox image was identified as a 
long-standing issue with the upstream `toolbox` project, which has been 
reluctant to add support.
   ○ **Action:** The discussion will continue in GitHub issue `#597` 
(https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/597). `supakeen` will update 
the ticket with the options discussed in the meeting.

● **ELN GPG Key**

   ○ ELN currently uses the Fedora Rawhide GPG key, which causes 
signing-related breakages every time Fedora branches.
   ○ A proposal was made to create a dedicated GPG key for ELN that 
would be rotated less frequently (e.g., every 3 years, aligned with RHEL 
branching), starting with the F46/EL11 branching.
   ○ **Decision:** The group agreed to proceed with this proposal.
   ○ **Action:** Proceed with working with release engineering to 
implement a new, dedicated ELN GPG key as detailed in issue `#598` 
(https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/598).

● **EBS Multi-Target Approach**

   ○ This topic was considered too complex for the remaining time.
   ○ **Action:** Members were asked to review the proposal in GitHub 
issue `elnbuildsync/#62` 
(https://github.com/fedora-eln/elnbuildsync/issues/62) and provide 
feedback in the `#eln` channel.

● **EBS Timeout Duration**

   ○ The current one-hour timeout for waiting on Bodhi updates to become 
stable before starting the next build batch is not optimal and caused 
issues during the recent mass-rebuild.
   ○ Two main proposals were discussed to improve this:
     1. A dynamic timeout based on the number of builds in the update 
(e.g., 30 minutes to 48 hours).
     2. A very long, fixed timeout with a manual override feature to 
cancel the wait.
   ○ **Action:** The discussion ran out of time and will continue in the 
`#eln` channel and GitHub issue `#586` 
(https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/586).

-- 
Yaakov Selkowitz
Principal Software Engineer, Emerging RHEL
Red Hat, LLC

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