Re: Criteria proposal: reword beta upgrade package requirement footnote

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 5:56 PM Adam Williamson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> But we *don't* only care about that. We *do* want to make sure that
> upgrade doesn't suddenly turn your KDE install into Workstation, for
> instance.
>

OK. What if we made it more explicit, since this is clearly one of the
major goals of this criterion? What about this:

~~~~~~~~~~
The upgraded system must identify as the same Edition/Spin and present the
same working environment as the system before upgrade (unless that change
is intentional).
The upgraded system must include any Fedora-built packages that were
installed before upgrade (unless those packages were expected to be removed
by an intentional packaging change [1]).
The upgrade process may also add packages that, in the new release, are
newly included in package groups that were installed before upgrade.

[1] E.g. a package is obsoleted by a different one; a package dependency is
no longer required; a package is dropped from a package group; a package is
retired and its dependencies can no longer be satisfied; etc.
~~~~~~~~~~

I'd also like to have the text above be moved from a footnote and be
included in the main criterion text instead (except [1], that could be a
footnote). The instructions seem to be too important to be hidden in a
footnote. We should use footnotes for clarifying, but not for hiding core
requirements.


> I phrased it as 'may' for practical reasons - I'm not sure all
> supported upgrade methods actually do this. If someone wants to check
> that both dnf system-upgrade and GNOME Software upgrades actually do
> this, we could make it 'must', I guess.
>

I expect this to be broken with the switch to DNF5, sadly, at least in my
limited experience. I'd love to have "must" in there, but that should
probably be a standalone discussion.

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