Re: Will bin-sbin-merge migrate existing systems?

On 2025-01-23 5:32 p.m., Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 1/23/25 2:17 PM, John Mellor wrote:
>>
>> On 2025-01-23 2:51 p.m., Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2025-01-23 at 06:00 +0000, George R Goffe via test wrote:
>>>> . . .
>>>>
>>>> 2) Are we forgetting why we have the concept of statically linked 
>>>> binaries?
>>> What does that have to do with where they are?
>>
>> If I may offer some insight:
>>
>> In the Unix philosophy, everything in /sbin is statically linked. 
>> Things in /bin may be statically linked, but more normally are 
>> dynamic. The root user PATH normally has /sbin and /usr/sbin before 
>> the others, while normal users have that reversed or even leave /sbin 
>> and /usr/sbin out altogether.  This makes a difference when you are 
>> trying to recover a system in the middle of the night. With tools 
>> like vi, sed, grep, mount etc. being statically linked, there are 
>> less dependencies required to get basic recovery tools working, 
>> increasing the likelihood that you can get the system at least 
>> partially back up without having to reinstall and lose 
>> mission-critical data.
>
> sbin being for static binaries is ancient history.  More recently it's 
> for system (superuser) binaries.  I checked my sbin directory and the 
> only statically linked binary there is "ldconfig".
>
Yes, its been broken for a lot of releases now.  The people who make these decisions are not admins with critical resources to keep flying.

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