Re: Getting projects to use Zanata?

----- Original Message -----

> Like Rafal said it's because fedora doesn't come with a lot of the java
> packages pre-installed.
> Also because yum/dnf is quite different in managing dependencies from most of
> the modern programming languages (java, python, javascript etc).

> /rant
> Modern programming languages allows much finer grain control of those
> dependencies (e.g. maven for java, pip for python, npm for javascript). You
> can pick and choose what you want at what version etc. With yum/dnf, if you
> need package A, and A needs B. Even though you don't require B, it still
> pulls it for you. To make it worse, a lot of the java library packages
> bundles multiple jars (the smallest library artifact java build tools uses).
> This means even if you just need one jar in your actual build, you have to
> install the whole rpm that comes with more than you need. RPM subpackaging
> will help but AFAIK a lot of the packagers don't care or won't bother doing
> that. Not to mention you have no/very little control of what version of the
> library you are getting from yum...
> /rant

Depends on whether you want less download files or download size. 

With dnf in fedora-25: 

Transaction Summary 
Install 103 Packages 
Total download size: 61 M 
Installed size: 149 M 

with maven (a popular java build and package manage system) 
zanata-maven-plugin runtime dependencies 
downloaded files: 1358 
downloaded size: 41 M 

Also bear in mind that maven maven does not clean the download cache for package upgrade, 
(and it should not), so in our build server, the download cache directory (~/.m2/repositoy) 
grows to 2.5 G. 

And 0install, for 0install and unzip themselves: 
Install 51 Packages 
Total download size: 13 M 
Installed size: 47 M 

And the zanata-cli dist.zip 
Download files: 1 
Download size: 15.3 M 

Of course, you can download the zanata-cli dist.zip yourself, the size is 15.3 M 

Download wise zanata-python-client is not so terrible, but the support is limited. 

So pick the demon you want to tame. 

-- 
Ding-Yi CHEN 

Software Engineer, Globalization Group 
Red Hat Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd 
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