Re: [transtats.org] f29 is added to transtats.xyz

Hi Sundeep

Thanks for reply, see inline.

On 2018/08/05 14:22, Sundeep Anand wrote:
> Hi Noriko,
>
> Transtats talks to various services like translation platforms, build system, git repositories, release schedules etc. to have an answer for - how much product release (as-in fedora 29) is translation complete[1]? If not why - which languages? which packages? which strings?
[Products] tab shows just Release Schedule, nothing for languages, 
packages or strings.
Just for the statistics, Zanata should show most accurate ones (afaik) 
and so Damnedlies...

A question comes up in my mind, WE ourselves have no full list of 
packages for certain release, because some come up newly while others 
become obsolete. Where can you reach the full list of package, and how 
to know the update for release?

> Transtats jobs[2] as-one is a tool to track string change, verify translations, inspect built SRPM for errors etc. And if we just schedule these jobs, automation could be attained.

[Jobs] syncs with platforms, build systems, source repositories and 
calendars.
Does this mean, something like, a job pulls certain set of translation 
from zanata and damnedlies, build, and then push to source repos? Do we 
schedule this job, why? with what kind of permission? Does this make 
maintainer really happy?

> As this part is heavy under-development - I could not say much here now! Basically, transtats contributes to g11n success[3].

It seems discussed in i18n fad, anyone there from l10n?
There is very interesting part I can see in your slide, under "Fedora 
Readiness" -> 2 Engagements. This is major problem for l10n and I've 
been looking for a solution for loooooong. So thank you!!

It is good feature to detect string breakage, but please be careful cz 
this can kill translator if it is used wrongly. The detection must send 
a warning to a maintainer, not us. A maintainer is responsible to 
manually notify us by following the procedure [1]. The goal is to 
minimize the breakage, not making auto-process for maintainer easily to 
break and translator to fix. I like to see a feature to send a warning 
to a maintainer as well counting the number of breakage across releases. 
From there, we can talk to a maintainer for improvement.

[1]:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Software_String_Freeze_Policy?rd=ReleaseEngineering/StringFreezePolicy

noriko


>
> Hope this answers.
>
> thanks,
> sundeep
>
> [1] https://speakerdeck.com/sundeep/transtats-introduction
> [2] http://transtats.xyz/jobs/yml-based
> [3] https://speakerdeck.com/sundeep/transtats-at-fad?slide=5
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