Re: Self-Introduction: Carmen — Esperanto (also: How to add a new language in Zanata)

Carmen Bianca Bakker <[email protected]> Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:46:10 +0100

Newsgroups	gmane.linux.redhat.internationalization
Message-ID	<[email protected]>

Hi Piotr, all,

On sab, 2018-10-27 at 18:40 +0200, Piotr Drąg wrote:
> I’m not quite
> sure how to make a new language available on Fedora, but while I’m
> looking into it

I've been looking into it as well.  It's a rabbit hole that goes quite
deep, because the glibc maintainers did not upstream Esperanto for the
longest time.  In the end Esperanto has been added without region.  So
where a normal locale is "nl_NL.UTF_8", Esperanto has "eo.UTF-8".
Debian used to do "eo_EO.UTF-8" until Esperanto was upstreamed.

I did a Dutch VM install of Fedora 29 today, and started seeing what I
could do to make Esperanto available.  I'll list my findings here:

- `locale -a` does not yield 'eo'.

- Esperanto is not available in GNOME.

- After installing `glibc-langpack-eo`, Esperanto is listed in `locale
  -a` and becomes available in GNOME. It then becomes a simple trick of
  editing /etc/locale.conf, and everything appears to work at first
  glance.

- Rather strangely, however, `glibc-langpack-nl` is NOT installed, yet
  Dutch is available and functional all the same.

- This appears to be because `glibc-all-langpacks` is pre-installed and
  contains copies(?) of all the individual langpacks.  Except,
  it appears, Esperanto.

I've been reading the glibc.src.rpm cursorily, but I can't really find a
cause for this yet.  Mostly because I don't know Lua so well.  My
suspicion was the thing that _always_ causes problems: Esperanto is the
only locale that doesn't have a region.  But in the places where it
matters, the specfile appears to specifically account for that.

I'll send a bug report to the Fedora glibc maintainers, to see if they
can figure it out maybe.

With kindness,
Carmen

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