Re: Fedora 32 translation memories

Sundeep Anand <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.internationalization,gmane.linux.redhat.internationalization
Message-ID <CAC97U50rtwCCVAZAk9J9NzRcTBKzEKhJXa-WnC-2FBMWnqdvYg@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,

Thank you and congratulations Jean-Baptiste for collating the data, that's
huge!
The next big thing would be to make them usable to consume.

Talking about Transtats:
It tries to bring a lot of things together that's its drawback and strength
at the same time.
  --- which makes it complex!

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 12:57 PM Jean-Baptiste Holcroft <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Le 2020-10-14 08:51, Sundeep Anand a écrit :
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 4:20 PM Jens-Ulrik Petersen
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 8:22 PM Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
> >>> I would like to make it a Fedora initiative and publish these
> >>> files in
> >>> an official Fedora website.
> >>> Would someone be willing to help? Constraints is to use Hugo to
> >>> allow
> >>> this website to be localized.
> >>
> >> I can't help wondering if there is any way to integrate this with
> >> Transtats in the future.
> >
> > this may align with https://github.com/transtats/transtats/issues/178
>
> As said on IRC:
>
> * transtats is focused on package out of sync, which isn't something I
> really worry about
>

As Transtats is evolving, package out of sync is one of the focused areas.


> * the technology used by transtats is too complex for me to easily step
> in
>

It's a plain django application.
https://github.com/transtats/transtats/blob/devel/CONTRIBUTING.md could be
a good starting point.


> * I'm also unsure about the usecases transtats covers and it probably
> requires more promotion and measurement of the impact it have


An effort to refine those use cases and tweak them is underway!


> * I'll be happy to have transtats front-end and have a dev to develop
> contribution features. For example, I have files with missing encoding,
> uniq keys in duplicates, obvious errors to fix etc.
>

Probably Transtats can see the
https://jibecfed.fedorapeople.org/partage/compendium-full/ as one big
source of translations?
In the past, I had been doing something with map-filter-reduce (in hadoop)
in the same scenario for the same desired results.


> * merging these two initiatives probably means to rewrite transtats,
> which is a hard decision to take
>

I guess rewrite is not required. We may just need a job consuming your
datasets.


> But I'm talking as an individual here, if transtats doesn't answers my
> usecase, it can still be useful for other users/personas.
>

Somehow, Transtats deals with multi-product / multi-tenancy environments
and
may be developed for multiple teams / stakeholders,
hence defining development priority in one direction sometimes looks
challenging.

How can we seriously discuss this and arrive with realistic options?
> Next Flock? A dedicated event?
>
> Jean-Baptiste
>
>

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