RE: Replacing ldirectord/heartbeat with LVS/piranha/pulse

"Sean Drill" <[email protected]> Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:12:48 +0900
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I am not sure if I am misreading this, but it appears that the FOS can
only occur at the server level, and not at the node level
=20
What I am trying to configure is....
=20
=20
Active LVS Server            Backup LVS
|
|
|-- VIP (HTTP)
        |
        |- Active HTTP
        |
        |- Backup HTTP
=20
In doing so I will have two layers of redundancy. The first layer will
be if the LVS server hosting the VIP's fails, it will fail over to the
backup LVS server. This functionality is default for LVS. However I also
require redundancy at the node level. So if the active HTTP server
fails, it moves to the backup HTTP server, without initiating a failover
to the Backup LVS server.
=20
>From what I am reading (I could be misreading) FOS occurs at the server
level, and not at the node level. Basically I want all HTTP traffic to
be handled by the Active HTTP server, and have the backup only take over
if I choose to fail it over, or the active server fails on its own.
=20
Cheers
=20
- Sean

________________________________

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Edward Croft
Sent: Tuesday, 10 March 2009 3:17 AM
To: Piranha clustering/HA technology
Subject: Re: Replacing ldirectord/heartbeat with LVS/piranha/pulse


If you need to use scripting with FOS then you may need the patched
version that Sebastion Bonnet put out.=20



2009/3/9 Mike Kemelmakher <[email protected]>


	Hi Sean, =20

	You can try to configure FOS  ( fail-over service)  mode which
is supported by piranha as well.=20

	Regards,=20
	-Mike=20
=09

	2009/3/9 Sean Drill <[email protected]>
=09

	=09

		Hi there

		I have been having some issues implementing a new load
balancing system, and was hoping someone could over some advice.

		Our current configuration is configured using
ldirectord. The active node hosts all the virtual servers. Each virtual
server will have an active real server, and a backup real server. All
the traffic will be directed to the active real server, unless that
server becomes unreachable, at which point all traffic will be directed
to the backup server. In other words, a traditional real/fallback
system.

		I am however only able to get piranha/lvs to do load
sharing. In this case as long as both servers are set to UP, then
traffic will be balanced between all servers (determined by load
balancing scheme and weighting.) What I am attempting to do is create a
virtual server in LVS, which has two active REAL servers, however direct
traffic only to one of them, unless otherwise directed or if the active
member fail, then direct traffic to the backup. I am basically trying to
replicate the ldirectord/heartbeat system with piranha/lvs/pulse.

		Any directions which can be offered would be great
appreciated.

		Regards,
		Sean
	=09
		=20
		Regards,
		Sean
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109480602-10032009><FONT =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109480602-10032009><FONT =
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Server&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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LVS</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109480602-10032009><FONT =
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size=3D2>|-- VIP (HTTP)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109480602-10032009><FONT =
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109480602-10032009><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>In doing so I will have two layers of redundancy. The first =
layer will be=20
if the LVS server hosting the VIP's fails, it will fail over to the =
backup LVS=20
server. This functionality is default for LVS. However I also require =
redundancy=20
at the node level. So if the active HTTP server fails, it moves to the =
backup=20
HTTP server, without initiating a failover to the Backup LVS=20
server.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109480602-10032009><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109480602-10032009><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>From what I am reading (I could be misreading) FOS occurs at =
the server=20
level, and not at the node level. Basically I want all HTTP traffic to =
be=20
handled by the Active HTTP server, and have the backup only take over if =
I=20
choose to fail it over, or the active server fails on its=20
own.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109480602-10032009><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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class=3D109480602-10032009></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D109480602-10032009></SPAN><SPAN class=3D109480602-10032009><FONT =

face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109480602-10032009><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109480602-10032009><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>- Sean</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> =
[email protected]=20
[mailto:[email protected]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Edward=20
Croft<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 10 March 2009 3:17 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Piranha=20
clustering/HA technology<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Replacing =
ldirectord/heartbeat=20
with LVS/piranha/pulse<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>If you need to use scripting with FOS then you may need the =
patched=20
version that Sebastion Bonnet put out. <BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/3/9 Mike Kemelmakher <SPAN =
dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr>Hi Sean,&nbsp;
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>You can try to configure FOS &nbsp;( fail-over service) =
&nbsp;mode which=20
  is supported by piranha as well.&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Regards,&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>-Mike&nbsp;<BR>
  <DIV><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/3/9 Sean Drill <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"=20
  target=3D_blank>[email protected]</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
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    <P><SPAN><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Hi there</FONT></SPAN></P>
    <P><SPAN><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>I have been having some =
issues=20
    implementing a new load balancing system, and was hoping someone =
could over=20
    some advice.</FONT></SPAN></P>
    <P><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D2>Our current configuration is =
configured=20
    using ldirectord. The active node hosts all the virtual servers. =
Each=20
    virtual server will have an active real server, and a backup real =
server.=20
    All the traffic will be directed to the active real server, unless =
that=20
    server becomes unreachable, at which point all traffic will be =
directed to=20
    the backup server.<SPAN> In other words, a traditional real/fallback =

    system.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
    <P><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D2>I am however only able to get =
piranha/lvs=20
    to do load sharing. In this case as long as both servers are set to =
UP, then=20
    traffic will be balanced between all servers (determined by load =
balancing=20
    scheme and weighting.) What I am attempting to do is create a =
virtual server=20
    in LVS, which has two active REAL servers, however direct traffic =
only to=20
    one of them, unless otherwise directed or if the active member fail, =
then=20
    direct traffic to the backup.<SPAN> I am basically trying to =
replicate the=20
    ldirectord/heartbeat system with =
piranha/lvs/pulse.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
    <P><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT size=3D2><SPAN>Any directions which =
can be offered=20
    would be great appreciated.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DVerdana,=20
    size=3D2>Regards,<BR>Sean<BR></FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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