Re: early review of RH 9 (Shrike)

Res <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.redhat.release.phoebe
Message-ID <[email protected]>
One must question the validity of such a review.
I find several things at fault with it, looks like it was written by a 16
yo kid for one, but the goodie is  'no outlook' type proggy, hmm so RH9
doesnt include evolution anymore ? :) At several times in it he refers to
it as RH 9.0 when we all know that isn't the case.
Why would you have a windows weenie review a *nix OS. the list goes on and
on and on.....


On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Audioslave - 7M3 - Live wrote:

> Elton Woo wrote:
> > On Tuesday 25 March 2003 19:16, Audioslave - 7M3 - Live wrote:
> >
> >>Charles Griffin wrote:
> >>
> >>>OSNews apparently received an early copy of RH 9
> >>>(called "Shrike") for review.
> >>>
> >>>Check it out here:
> >>>http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3119
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>Charles
> >
> >
> >
> >>Thanks for the link to the article. It sounds like the coverage was
> >>fairly in-line with my experiences with this beta.
> >>
> >>The mozilla phone calls make me wonder, for those that plan on upgrading
> >>only. I guess since it doesn't work well. They might be better off with
> >>the 1.3 or later browser versions.
> >>
> >>Jim
> >
> >
> > I must say that I'm a rather disappointed the the status quo WRT MP3
> > support in Red Hat 9 remains the same. Considering that both Mandrake
> > and SUSe are releasing their next versions with MP3 support in them...
> > (... unless I'm seriously mistaken about this!).
> >
> > I realise too, that Red Hat's main focus is in the server market, and
> > it looks like the other distros have a better chance of gaining the desktop
> > (read: Windows converts).
> >
> > QUESTION: Does this mean that any serious challenge to the Wintel
> > desktop will be only forthcoming from Europe? True, "Lindows" might be
> > making some kind of dent, but only in parts of the USA. I am yet to see
> > a Lindows box at any local brangh of Walmart (even though those stores
> > are sprouting in these parts like mushrooms after a heavy rainfall...
> >
> > QUESTION: Release notes (RH 9)? I don't think (IMVHO) that the
> > release notes from Phoebe3 would apply, since there were so many
> > unresolved questions and show-stoppers...
> >
> > ... but then I could be wrong, just as I was wrong in thinking that
> > the DOJ would really have come down hard on Microsoft...
> >
> > Elton ;-)
>
> I was also gullible with the DOJ game that was played out. I guess the
> days for convincing others to switch from Windows to specifically Red
> Hat are getting lesser.
>
> To be fair about the mp3 issue. It isn't that major of a deal to get the
> proper rpm for it to work again. It does however take away the idea of a
> ready to go, everything included attitude. that I had in the past.
>
> To conquer the desktop market, you have to be attractive and hassle free
> , in the eyes of the future customer. I see too many things
> disappearing. With the 95 percent of the future windows converts, they
> can download many different executables and easily install them upon
> their systems. Making it less convienient and with less functionality
> only reduces the prospect of a pulling force for more users.
>
> Reducing the availability of programs has made the apt-get for rpm
> alternative look more attractive and a desired tool.
>
> Red Hat got me away from windows. But the latest developments with
> regards to missing programs, less than full support for not 100 percent
> pure systems and the fear that the free days for Red Hat are fading.
>
> In my view, you have to build the base. Broaden the offerings, then
> entice (not force) others to subscribe to services.
>
> I wish the best for Red Hat and am still planning on subscribing to
> their 60 dollars for always available updates (within the distro
> supported range). I like the fast connections for downloading ISOs.
>
> I am repelled for several reasons. It sounds like I'm losing things (mp3
> and other favorite programs). I am made aware (or getting the
> impression) that I have to
> have a completely Genuine Red Hat system or the support is absolutely
> zero. Even though it is being paid for support.
>
> I keep thinking .. "I'll get the 60 dollars per year deal.' Then think
> "What for!"
>
> I am planning on checking out the rhn subscription. I keep on getting
> deferred with these changes.
>
> Jim
>
> RH user since version 4.2 .. regular user, since attracted by 5.2 (Real
> audio, Wordperfect trial and netscape)
>
>
>

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-Res



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