What do you want? What are you willing to pay? [was Re: Correct me if I'm wrong]

Sorry for cross-posting but I really wanted to ask this question of 
those on both lists

Joseph Phillips wrote:

>Is this the lowest priced configuration?
>
>Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS, Basic Edition = $179.00
>Basic Service Entitlement = $60.00
>Total = $239.00
>
>So, I have to pay 239 dollars to get the Basic Edition of RHELWS with a
>1 year Basic Service Entitlement?
>
>I hope it's not really this expensive?  Maybe Red Hat should lower the
>price a bit?  How about by at least including a free Basic Service
>Entitlement with the purchase of each RHELWS license?  That would at
>least knock $60 off the initial investment.  But all-in-all I think they
>need to come down from the $179.00 by at least 50 dollars.
>
>  
>
My understanding, still to be verified/clarified by someone at Red Hat, 
is that its worse than that.

There are no RHN subscriptions for RHEL products but rather RHEN 
subscriptions.
The price of the annual subscription is the price of the products.
Therefore RHELWS with one year subscription is either
$179 + $179 per year OR $299 the first year, $299 the second year, etc.
but definitely NOT $179 + $60 per year.

This has been stated several places now BUT it is very unclear on the 
Red Hat site (possible purposely so) and *I* have not seen any 
statements from Red Hat folks that clarify this issue.

I, personally, am willing to pay more than $60 for the enterprise level 
BUT $60 to $179 or $299 (or $349) PER YEAR PER SYSTEM/DESKTOP is a real 
hard to swallow for an errata/update service.

Red Hat seems to be focused only on very large, very rich companies for 
the enterprise line. IMHO even those folks are going to choke on, for 
example, $299 per year for every desktop.

All this does beg the question though "What would you be willing to pay 
... "

... for initial RH Enterprise ES?  associated ongoing RHEN 
errata/up2date service (ie with current features/limits)?

... for initial RH Enterprise WS? associated ongoing RHEN errata/up2date 
subscription?

... for RHN subscription for consumer products with lives extended to 18 
months?

... for RHN subscription for consumer products with 
"improvements/extensions"?


We're all (well a lot of us) complaining and saying RedHat doesn't know 
what we want. Tell them.


I, personally, would probably be able to live with (and be able to 
"sell" to my clients)

RHEL WS with 3-4 yrs errata/updates initial cost of $100 to $150 (90 day 
sub) plus $100/yr for RHN/RHEN subscription.

RHEL ES with 3-4 yrs errata/updates, initial cost of $200-$300 (90 day 
sub), plus $200/yr for RHN/RHEN subscription.

I would be willing to pay somewhat more per year for RHN/RHEN 
subscriptions if it provide somewhat more ability to keep the systems 
current. For example, if it provided updated, RH "approved", versions of 
major RH supplied apps like Mozilla, Gnome, KDE, etc.

I would also like to see an option for a "site" fee wherein I could pay 
a larger subscription which allowed me to setup a local up2date 
repository for all that sites desktops (ie RHEL WS systems).

What do others want?

R.Parr, RHCE
Temporal Arts







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