Re: 3'rd party question

Hi Tom,

I have run IBM 1.4.1 JVMs extensively on both RH9 and RHEL3 b2 with and 
without NPTL.  I am quite surprised to hear your report.  Anyways, pls 
keep us posted as to what happens in your meet.

Thanks,
Saket
Java Performance, IBM Hursley.

Tom Syroid wrote:

> Tom (and all others asking questions on this thread)...
>
> --On Monday, September 29, 2003 10:06:29 -0500 Tom 'spot' Callaway 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Its a little early to make that call. However, we fully expect
>> certifications from all of our vendor partners who certified their
>> product lines on RHEL 2.1, which include Oracle, IBM, Veritas, and
>> LEGATO.
>>
>> ~spot
>
>
> Seems like a timely moment for me to jump in here, as the topic is 
> enormously pertinent to me at this moment in time.
>
> SCENARIO: This week I'll be embarking on a new project that involves 
> IBM software; specifically, IBM Portal 4.2.1 Extend. The scope of the 
> project calls for me to do a proof-of-concept install, followed by a 
> "production deployment" at our main office. According to the 
> parameters of the project, the production installation needs to stay 
> in place, and be accessible, for one year. I can't say too much about 
> the project itself other than to note it involves detailing the 
> installation and administration of Portal Extend, and the content 
> generated will be read/critiqued, and used as a source of information, 
> internally by IBM.
>
> The problem I face, given the recent reorganization at RH, is a 
> relatively complex one. IBM only support Portal Extend on RH 7.2. I've 
> managed to implement Enable on RH 8, so I can say with relative 
> confidence that I'll be able to do the same with Extend. But support 
> for 7.2 --> 8.0 disappears 12/31/03, and support for 9 goes away in 
> March. Fair enough. But what RH OS do I lay this project on. I 
> certainly do not want to be faced with an OS upgrade half way through 
> the project cycle. I also need to lay it on something that's supported.
>
> I have tried running the Extend installer on RH 9 and RHAS beta 3. No 
> joy.
>
> Using IBMJava2-SDK-131, the installer segfaults on both operating 
> systems.
> Using IBMJava2-SDK-141, the installer starts, but craps out on a Java 
> exception error early in the process.
>
> So the problem is clearly in IBM's court. Their installer Java code 
> evidently clashes with the GLIBC libraries (or something related to 
> GCC 3.3 and GLIBC 2.3.2; I'm not a dev, just a lowly admin). IBM are 
> providing no insights as to where they plan to jump.
>
> RH are saying this, and other compatibility issues, belong in the 
> vendor's domain. True.
>
> But guys (and gals ;-) like me are left hanging in the lurch. I've got 
> a job to do, and a project to implement/administer. Pointing fingers 
> doesn't resolve the issues one nit.
>
> This is not a criticism or condemnation of any parties, in any way, 
> shape, or form. It's a request for insight and a call for suggested 
> approaches.
>
> I have a conference call with some "high ups" at IBM tomorrow morning. 
> The more background knowledge I can bring to the table, the better.
>
> What kind of questions should I be asking?
> Does RH have any insights to provide?
> What, if any, opinions can the admin/dev community provide on this 
> thread?
>
> TIA. And great work on RHAS 3, folks. Very impressive release.
>
> Best,
> /tom
>
>
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