Re: Debian 7->8 dist-upgrade instaluje x11

Adam Pribyl <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.region.czech
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018, Jan Marek wrote:

> Dd,
>
> nemåm to sice ovÏøenÊ, ale domnívåm se, že bÏhem dist-upgrade se
> doporuèenÊ balíèky neinstalují. NicmÊnÏ za zkoušku asi nic
> nedĂĄte.

Muzu potvrdit ze APT::Install-Recommends "0"; zredukuje NEW baliky i pro 
dist-upgrade asi na pulku. Nicmene stale tam ja ruzna pango/cairo, xcursor 
apod.


> Jedinå možnost (IMHO), jak zjistit, co tam ten ostatní nepoøådek
> zatĂĄhlo, je zkusit najĂ­t nĂŹjakou vhodnou knihovnu, kterĂĄ je hodnĂŹ
> hluboko v hierarchii napø. tÏch x-ek, a tu zkusit odinstalovat.
> Ona s sebou pøi odinstalaci vezme i balík, který ji tam zatåhl a
> tím by se snad dalo zjistit, který balík to byl. A pokud pøi
> pokusu o odinstalaci nÏjakÊho balíku zaène systÊm protestovat, že
> se pokoušíte odinstalovat essential balík, mڞete zjistit, který
> balĂ­k vlastnĂŹ natĂĄhne ten binec.
>
> Když tak probíråm ten seznam, zkusil bych napø. libgl1-mesa-dri,
> libdrm2 apod.

To jsem zkousel, apt uplne klidne odinstaluje jen ty knihovny co jsem 
pozadoval. Podezrele mi tam z toho je akorat nahrazeni pinentry-gtk za 
pinentry-curses a trochu mi tam smrdi ten fontconfig - mohla by tam byt 
jakasi zavislost typu rrdtool->font->fontconfig.

> A ještÏ måm jeden tip: Zkuste si nainstalovat balík deborphan a
> po instalaci zkusit toto:
>
> apt-get purge `deborphan`
>
> Tohle vymlåtí knihovny, kterÊ už v systÊmu nejsou potøeba ke
> splnÏní zåvislostí. KaždopådnÏ ale dåvejte pozor na to, co to
> chce odinstalovat - nÏkdy je to pøíliš "horlivÊ" :-)

Diky, zkusil jsem to, ale naslo to 5 nejakych knihoven, ktere v klidu sly 
odinstalovat.

> BTW: nemĂŹl jste na serveru nĂŹkdy nainstalovanou sambu? Je tam
> napø. samba-libs, libcups2 apod. Ten libcups2 by si totiž k sobÏ
> mohl natåhnout všelijakÊ vÏci z X11... Možnå bych zkusil ten
> deborphan použít (nÏkolikråt, dokud bude mít snahu nÏco
> odinstalovåvat!) ještÏ pøed tím dist-upgrade.  Upgrade probÏhne
> rychleji a nebudete se muset zabývat zbyteèným èištÏním....

samba tam neni. Nejvic zatim pomohlo to neinstalovat doporucene 
zavislosti.

> ZdravĂ­
> Honza Marek


I tak diky, budu to jeste zkoumat. Skoda ze proste neni mozne nejak vypsat 
strom reseni zavislosti, z toho by to bylo videt, ale nic takoveho jsem 
nenasel.


Adam Pribyl




> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 09:23:21PM +0100, Petr Balåš wrote:
>> Jen pro jistotu:
>>
>> APT::Install-Recommends "0";
>>
>> v nĂŹjakĂŠm souboru v /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*.conf mĂĄme?
>>
>> Automatickå instalace doporuèených balíèkÚ je zlo.
>>
>> Petr Balåš
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:23 PM, Adam Pribyl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Bohuzel se za 5 let podpory Debianu 7 nic moc nezmenilo, takze me i na
>>> Debianu ceka prechod na systemd. Pustil jsem si cvicne dist-upgrade D7 na D8
>>> - mam optimalizovane servery s instalacemi cca 600MB, mnohdy maji i maly
>>> rootfs. Vysledek dist-upgrade je ale tristni:
>>>
>>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>>   acl apache2-bin apache2-data dbus dmeventd docutils-common docutils-doc
>>> fonts-dejavu fonts-dejavu-core fonts-dejavu-extra gcc-4.9-base gnupg-agent
>>> gnupg2 hicolor-icon-theme init init-system-helpers iproute2
>>>   irqbalance libalgorithm-c3-perl libarchive-extract-perl libarchive13
>>> libassuan0 libatk1.0-0 libatk1.0-data libatm1 libaudit-common libaudit1
>>> libauthen-sasl-perl libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data
>>>   libavahi-common3 libbind9-90 libcap2-bin libcgi-fast-perl libcgi-pm-perl
>>> libclass-c3-perl libclass-c3-xs-perl libcpan-meta-perl libcryptsetup4
>>> libcups2 libcurl3-gnutls libdata-optlist-perl
>>>   libdata-section-perl libdb5.3 libdbus-1-3 libdebconfclient0
>>> libdns-export100 libdns100 libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-radeon1
>>> libdrm2 libelf1 libestr0 libfcgi-perl libffi6 libfontenc1 libgcrypt20
>>>   libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx
>>> libglapi-mesa libgmp10 libgnutls-deb0-28 libgnutls-openssl27 libgraphite2-3
>>> libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common
>>>   libharfbuzz0b libhogweed2 libice6 libicu52 libintl-perl libio-html-perl
>>> libirs-export91 libisc-export95 libisc95 libisccc90 libisccfg-export90
>>> libisccfg90 libjasper1 libjbig0 libjpeg62-turbo libjson-c2
>>>   libksba8 liblcms2-2 libldb1 libllvm3.5 liblog-message-perl
>>> liblog-message-simple-perl liblogging-stdlog0 liblognorm1 liblua5.1-0
>>> liblvm2cmd2.02 liblwres90 liblzo2-2 libmodule-build-perl
>>>   libmodule-pluggable-perl libmodule-signature-perl libmro-compat-perl
>>> libnet-smtp-ssl-perl libnettle4 libntdb1 libnuma1 libpackage-constants-perl
>>> libpam-cap libpam-systemd libpango-1.0-0 libpangocairo-1.0-0
>>>   libpangoft2-1.0-0 libpangox-1.0-0 libpangoxft-1.0-0 libpaper-utils
>>> libpaper1 libparams-util-perl libpciaccess0 libperl4-corelibs-perl
>>> libperl5.20 libpod-latex-perl libpod-readme-perl libprocps3 libpsl0
>>>   libpython-stdlib libpython2.7 libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib
>>> libregexp-common-perl librtmp1 libsasl2-modules-db libsigsegv2 libsm6
>>> libsmartcols1 libsmbclient libsoftware-license-perl
>>>   libsub-exporter-perl libsub-install-perl libsystemd0 libtasn1-6 libtcl8.5
>>> libtcl8.6 libterm-ui-perl libtevent0 libtext-soundex-perl
>>> libtext-template-perl libtext-unidecode-perl libtiff5
>>>   libtime-parsedate-perl libtk8.6 libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libudev1 libutempter0
>>> libwebp5 libwebpdemux1 libwebpmux1 libx11-xcb1 libxaw7 libxcb-dri2-0
>>> libxcb-dri3-0 libxcb-glx0 libxcb-present0 libxcb-shape0
>>>   libxcb-sync1 libxcomposite1 libxcursor1 libxdamage1 libxfixes3 libxi6
>>> libxinerama1 libxml-libxml-perl libxml-namespacesupport-perl
>>> libxml-parser-perl libxml-sax-base-perl libxml-sax-expat-perl
>>>   libxml-sax-perl libxmu6 libxpm4 libxrandr2 libxshmfence1 libxss1 libxt6
>>> libxtables10 libxtst6 libxv1 libxxf86dga1 libxxf86vm1
>>> linux-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae openssh-sftp-server pinentry-gtk2 python-crypto
>>>   python-defusedxml python-docutils python-ldb python-ntdb python-pil
>>> python-pkg-resources python-pygments python-roman python-samba python-six
>>> python-talloc python-tdb python-wstools rename samba-libs
>>>   startpar systemd systemd-sysv tcl-expect tcl8.6 tk8.6 x11-common x11-utils
>>> xbitmaps xdg-user-dirs xterm
>>>
>>> After this operation, 311 MB of additional disk space will be used.
>>>
>>> Tusi nekdo jak zjistit co tento bordel v distr-upgrade pritahne a jak to
>>> eliminovat? Zkusil jsem to nainstalovat a nasledne remove na ty nejokatejsi
>>> nesmysly, ale vysledek je stale narust poctu baliku z nejakych 400 na skoro
>>> 600.
>>>
>>> Diky
>>>
>>> Adam Pribyl
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>>
>>
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