Re: "antisemitic" Linux Mint [was: Re: Distro recommendation]

RMS was bullied into canceling his Israeli University talks by his (paying)
Palestinian hosts. He explains here:

http://stallman.org/articles/palestine-trip.html

Can we PLEASE stop playing politics now? This is NOT the right forum, and
we're none of us any good at it. RMS himself is a great example.

J.

[full disclosure; I use and enjoy Linux Mint, just as I enjoy the music of
Richard Wagner. Bad people can create good things]

On 20 November 2017 at 12:45, Tzafrir Cohen <[email protected]> wrote:

> Complementing the time line:
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:56:13AM +0200, Geoffrey Mendelson wrote:
> > On 11/20/2017 11:20 AM, Vladimir Vainer wrote:
> > > Can you provide more information on  Israel-Palestine controversy as it
> > > applies to Open Office?
> >
> > Time Line:
> >
> > Arab League passes a boycott of Israel. (this will become important
> later)
> >
> > Oslo accords create Palestinian Authority.  The PA sends workers and
> medical
> > patients to Israel, gets most of its water, electricity, food, cooking
> gas,
> > building supplies, etc from Israel (no boycott).
> >
> > Palestinians bombard Sderot with rockets and mortars.
> >
> > Sderot builds underground kindergarden (gan)
> >
> > Larry Ellison (CEO of Oracle) donates money to extend kindergarden with
> > underground playground, one of many things in Israel he funded.
> >
>
> 2010:
>
> Jan: Oracle buys Sun (owner of OpenOffice.org). Renames it
> OracleOpenOffice.
>
> Sep: The majority of the developers community forks. LibreOffice is
> born. They form The Document Foundation.
>
> 2011:
>
> Apr: Oracle annonces it will abandon development of OpenOffice. At the
> time LibreOffice has already turned out to be a more vibrant
> alternative. But there was still something of a development community
> behind the Oracle project (and a third, competing, one, led by former
> OO.o developers).
>
> Jun: Oracle announces it will move OpenOffice to the Apache Foundation.
>
> > Palestinain businessman invites (and I assume pays) RMS to speak on
> FOSS. He
> > requires that RMS does not speak in Israel or meet with israelis on that
> > trip. Note that RMS could have flown to Aman, taken a taxi to the Alenby
> > Bridge and a Palestinian taxi to where he wanted to in the P.A. without
> ever
> > entering Israel.
> >
> > RMS chooses to fly to Ben Gurion and enter the PA via Israel.
> >
> > RMS announces, using his email account as President of the FSF that he
> will
> > honor the (nonexistent (see above)) boycott of Israel.
>
> RMS visited Israel in Jul-2011. He also gave two talks in Israel proper,
> though not one of them was in a university.
>
> >
> > Oracle was going to divest its interest in Open Office. The original plan
> > was to donate it to the FSF.
>
> Huh? Have you any evidence of that? Any mails exchanged from people at
> Oracle with the FSF or whoever?
>
> At the time IBM put pressure on Oracle to donate the code to Apache
> instead of following the developers community (who eventually formed The
> Document Foundation). The FSF had no real affiliation with the practical
> fork of OO.o (ooo-build / go-oo), that has already established TDF as a
> legal entity.
>
> See e.g.
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/what-the-heck-is-happening-
> with-openoffice-update/
>
> >
> > Ellison (obviously upset by RMS's boycott) donates Open Office to the
> Apache
> > Foundation.
>
> This is not so clear to me.
>
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