Re: trying to clarify the plethora of mailing lists, and when to bugzilla stuff

Panu Matilainen <[email protected]> Sun, 08 Dec 2013 21:15:48 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.linux.rpm.yum
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 12/06/2013 11:49 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>    i'm still trying to catch back up after having been away
> from fedora for a while, so a short question to make sure
> i'm posting to the right place(s) from now on.
>
>    on a new and updated install of RHEL (actually centos) 6.5,
> i'm working through the RH docs and the "rpm" command, and the
> man page for rpm seems to have some historical cruft in it, but
> i'm not sure where (or if) to report that.

Rpm specific stuff belongs to the rpm-mailinglists, see
http://rpm.org/wiki/Communicate
>
>    specifically, for rpm 4.8, the tail end of the man page
> reads:
>
>     rpmrc Configuration
>         /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
>         /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/rpmrc
>         /etc/rpmrc
>         ~/.rpmrc
>
> pretty sure those two middle files:
>
>         /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/rpmrc
>         /etc/rpmrc
>
> don't exist anymore, so at the very least, that version of
> the rpm man page looks wrong,

In Fedora/RHEL and derivates, /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/rpmrc comes from 
redhat-rpm-config package, but rpm on those distros will actually 
process it. More or less the same with /etc/rpmrc: it doesn't exist by 
default on Fedora/RHEL and derivates but rpm will process it if it 
exists, so the man-page is actually correct wrt that.

The reason for all this rpmrc's is:
/usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc: upstream "factory defaults"
/usr/lib/rpm/<vendor>/rpmrc: distro additions/overrides
/etc/rpmrc: host-specific additions/overrides
~/.rpmrc: user-specific additions/overrides

> and i *think* even the latest
> version contains the same outdated info. and the next two
> FILES sections look they need similar updating -- the Macro
> Configuration and Databases lists look a little out of date.

Macro configuration section does indeed seem to be out of date on rpm 
4.11.x, database section seems ok to me though. Dont remember what's in 
rpm 4.8.x manual though, so please be more specific as to what you 
suspect being incorrect.

>    so ... where does one find the *latest* man pages online
> to compare against?  (as i said, RHEL 6.5 has rpm 4.8, so it's
> not clear if this has already been resolved.)

Upstream website?

>
>    also, as an alternative to bugzilla, i'm quite happy to
> submit git-diff type patches, but i'm not sure what i'd
> be patching against -- where does one checkout the latest
> sources?

See http://rpm.org/wiki/GetSource

	- Panu -

>
>    just trying to figure out the best way to be helpful.



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