Re: Disk problems with Slackware 14.1 and WD EIDE drives

On 02/02/2015 06:04 PM, Ed Fletcher wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [slackware] Disk problems with Slackware 14.1 and WD EIDE drives
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> On 02/02/2015 04:24 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
>> John Crowhurst wrote:
>>> On 02/02/2015 19:22, Bob McConnell wrote:
>>>> Jostein Berntsen wrote:
>>>>> On 02.02.15,13:41, Bob McConnell wrote:
>>>>>> Jostein Berntsen wrote:
>>>>>>> On 02.02.15,12:30, Bob McConnell wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have two computers with WD IDE drives running Slackware 14.1.
>>>>>>>> Both of them
>>>>>>>> have been giving me the same set of error messages which don't
>>>>>>>> make any
>>>>>>>> sense to me. Can anyone tell me what is going on with them?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dec 28 10:53:59 workdesk kernel: [91574.369664] ata1.00:
>>>>>>>> configured for
>>>>>>>> UDMA/100
>>>>>>>> Dec 28 10:53:59 workdesk kernel: [91574.369690] sd 2:0:0:0:
>>>>>>>> [sda] Unhandled
>>>>>>>> sense code
>>>>>>>> Dec 28 10:53:59 workdesk kernel: [91574.369694] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda]
>>>>>>>> Dec 28 10:53:59 workdesk kernel: [91574.369700] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda]
>>>>>>>> Dec 28 10:53:59 workdesk kernel: [91574.369709]         72 03 11
>>>>>>>> 04 00 00 00
>>>>>>>> 0c 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 00
>>>>>>>> Dec 28 10:53:59 workdesk kernel: [91574.369720]         00 11 3c bf
>>>>>>>> Dec 28 10:53:59 workdesk kernel: [91574.369725] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda]
>>>>>>>> Dec 28 10:53:59 workdesk kernel: [91574.369731] sd 2:0:0:0:
>>>>>>>> [sda] CDB:
>>>>>>>> Dec 28 10:53:59 workdesk kernel: [91574.369767] ata1: EH complete
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The disk specs are
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Model Family:     Western Digital Caviar Blue EIDE
>>>>>>>> Device Model:     WDC WD3200AAJB-00WGA0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The most troublesome is running the huge kernel on a Pentium 4.
>>>>>>>> (Dell
>>>>>>>> Optiplex GX240). Most of the resulting file system errors show
>>>>>>>> up in sda2,
>>>>>>>> which is the /usr partition. Several applications are no longer
>>>>>>>> functional,
>>>>>>>> so it appears to be losing active sectors to this error.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My biggest question is why is there an unhandled code? Shouldn't
>>>>>>>> this kernel
>>>>>>>> know how to handle all of the status codes the disk can generate?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you run "smartctl -a /dev/sda" and see if you get some more
>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>> information then?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jostein
>>>>>> I get a lot of data, but I haven't been able to interpret it well
>>>>>> enough to
>>>>>> know if it is useful. Where can I got an explanation of what all
>>>>>> of this
>>>>>> means?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob McConnell
>>>>>> N2SPP
>>>>> These seems like typical bad block errors which can mean that the
>>>>> disk is
>>>>> not well. See this for more information on what you can check:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Jostein
>>>> If that is the case, the hard part will be to find a replacement
>>>> drive. Anybody know where I can get some new IDE drives?
>>>>
>>> It may seem a silly question, but could you not simply buy a PCI SATA
>>> card and use SATA drives instead of IDE?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> John
>> Not so silly, but I do not recall ever seeing one. Every SATA
>> interface I have seen was built into the mother board. Looks like I
>> have some research to do.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Bob McConnell
>> N2SPP
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> I do believe the PCI bus is too slow / loads the bus too much for SATA-2
> hard drives, which is why we can't get a controller for them. However,
> PCI-E X1 cards are available and drop into a PCI-E X1, X4, X8, or X16
> slot, and handles SATA-3. (Provided the X16 slot has not been assigned
> to a graphics port by the Mfg.) A little off topic, but a newer system
> might be in order here. If someone finds a controller for old PCI,
> tho... let me know. I have MANY older Pentium 4 single cores. :)
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> I've got some sata pci cards running.  No problems with Slackware.  Do a quick search, you'll find plenty.  Amazon.com has a bunch of different brands.  Your local computer store likely has some also.
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> Ed
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Nothing local, definitely. I'm very backwoods here, the only access to 
real tech is tigerdirect.com. Never thought of Amazon, but have searched 
the web for them and nothing came up.
Thanks for the tip, Ed. This could be the birth of about 10 new (old) 
Slackware machines!