Re: Getting verbose progress back on 15SP4?

Hi Imo,

Imobach Gonzalez Sosa wrote:

> Sorry, but there is no way to show the package names. For 15 SP4 we
> decided to simplify the progress screen. The main reason is that
> libzypp will support parallel packages installation and we found out
> that the old screen did not fit in that scenario at all.
> 
> If you are interested, you might check the mailing list[1] discussion
> and some of the PRs[2][3] in GitHub.

thanks for the explanation, but this was a very very bad decision.
This is not MacOS where Apple is trying to keep users as stupid as
possible. This is Linux where we are used to get detailed information
and see what's going on.

And parallel operations are not an argument. Kernel and systemd are
doing bunch of stuff in parallel during boot process and are able to
show even several progress bars in parallel. It's easy to stack output
of parallel operations.

Now you have got just one bar which stays at the same state for minutes
and it's not possible to see why. I had to ssh to the host to check AY
has not crashed.
If there had been detailed information I could have a) seen which package
is installing and that it is a huge one that takes some time and b) see
the progress bar of all packages currently installing to know that things
are still moving.

Keeping information from users is always a very bad idea. That's what
Windows and MacOS do. You shouldn't try to take that direction.

cu,
Frank

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