Re: The state of X in 2026

Simon ,

thanks for your input, i think there is no perfect solution at the=20
moment, if community decide to go with Wayland , i will follow and i=20
will be working on making sure that TDE gets into Wayland natively.
This would be of-course a lot of work, i will have dedicated hardware to=
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have the best possible to enduser experience.
There is a lot of work and people should do that.
Best regards

Alexander

Am 22.07.2026 um 04:57 schrieb Simon Lees:
> Hi,
>
> On 21/7/26 20:33, Alexander Orlovsky via openSUSE Users wrote:
>> Am 21.07.2026 um 03:10 schrieb David C Rankin:
>>> This is quite an odd question for an openSUSE mailing list, but here=
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>>> are a couple of thoughts:
>>>
>>> A look at the activity in X11 and forks currently
>>> https://go.reg.cx/tdml/4nHZ
>>>
>>> Your next decision is a rather simple one. Are you only going to=20
>>> support Plasma, Gnome and Xfce (when wayland port finished), or are=20
>>> you going to support the other 40+ desktops for Linux that do not=20
>>> support Wayland at all?
>>>
>>> If you could only pick one, I'd pick X11, and leave the collusion=20
>>> between freedesktop and the other three desktops to run its course.=20
>>> Also, if you want to restore a desktop session the same way you left=
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>>> it when it was shutdown, you may be very disappointed with the pile=20
>>> of windows all dumped in the middle of the screen wayland leaves=20
>>> you... it has no ability to remember window sizes or locations.
>>>
>>>
>> David, this is interesting, i think in my case i need to support=20
>> Wayland, because i have commercial clients which want to switch from=20
>> other distros it is their wish , which i need to satisfy.
>> I think what is fascinating about Wayland is theirs software=20
>> architecture , xorg and xlibre they have a lot of legacy code , xorg=20
>> wont be developer actively , xlibre has good dev community but they=20
>> need to prove themselves in enterprise environment , that can take up=
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>> to 1 to 3 years.
>
> I have some experience here, I have been openSUSE's Enlightenment=20
> Desktop maintainer for a number of years. From an architectural=20
> perspective wayland is certainly significantly better but also has=20
> some intentional restrictions that have taken more time to get around.
>
> I have recently moved some of my systems from Enlightenment/X11 to=20
> KDE/Wayland. In my opinion its only really been the last 6 months=20
> where Wayland on KDE has been completely ready with things like Screen=
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> sharing, Deskflow/Synergy/Barrier and other harder to implement=20
> features have been completed. Having not used it my understanding is=20
> Gnome is probably 6-12 months ahead of that.
>
>> Since i run smaller distro my plan to support only windowmanagers TDE=
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>> and XFCE but with ability to extend and support future tech and=20
>> currently my polls show that people prefer to use Wayland, that of=20
>> course can change , still this why i posted my question here, i need=20
>> feedback , i need to know what people experienced so far and what=20
>> challenges are existing.
>
> I think that even once xfce has basic wayland support it would still=20
> be 2-3 years before it supports all the portals / features well reliably=
.
>
> In the meantime KDE is now at the point where they are removing X11=20
> support from there desktop session, Gnome has already done that. For=20
> now KDE atleast is keeping X11 support in there apps although i'm=20
> guessing this will be much less tested so at some point I suspect some=
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> apps will stop working well in X11.
>
> At the same time there are a series of smaller wayland only=20
> compositors based of the wlroots libraries which might be an easier=20
> option to maintain then a full Gnome or KDE stack.
>
> I imagine that most apps just using common toolkits will continue=20
> working with X11 desktops for quite some time.
>
>> Some people even claimed that there issues with screen recording in=20
>> Wayland , but for that i need verifiable conformations.
>
> There is now a full Portal / Protocol for allowing this. For Wayland=20
> compositors and apps that support this Portal it works fine, I've used=
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> KDE with obs-studio, Chrome for web calls and slack all of which=20
> handle it fine. Maybe some smaller things don't support this yet and=20
> they may have images.
>
>> I believe there=C2=A0 is no silver bullet, the beauty of running src ba=
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>> customized distro , that i am not limited by packages dependencies=20
>> and i can just to whatever the requirements are, anyway please do=20
>> vote on pools
>> that would not only help me it would give all broader picture:
>> https://x.com/OrlConsultGbR/status/2078537990708560017
>> https://mastodon.social/@orlovskyconsultinggbr/116942299603168304
>> https://github.com/orlovskyjavaprofi/t2customlinux/discussions/31
>
> Done
>
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