Re: Wayland Woes and a Couple of Leap 16 Fixes

David C Rankin <[email protected]> Sun, 26 Jul 2026 02:29:06 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.linux.suse.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 7/24/26 1:06 PM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
> Clients using major GUI toolkits will likely get it for free; clients 
> implementing Wayland directly will need to explicitly add support.

That's kind of where I see the Achilles's heel. If you use a desktop 
that isn't Plasma or Gnome, session restoration isn't something that 
will "just work", unless you become an expert on the compositor and the 
session management protocol and knowing when/how to make those two work 
to restore the windows you have in your session.

This, to me, is really one of those "Life's short, I just want the 
windows back the same way I left them" issue. I don't want a PhD in 
wayland or the session management protocol.

As Lew found out, the pile of windows in the center of the desktop is a 
real, current issue -- that needs smart people to solve it, so the 
normal users just get their session back if they happen to have wayland 
installed for them by default.

It just leaves me shaking my head. How many times can the Linux desktop 
shoot itself in the foot? The year of the Linux desktop could have been 
2005, but 21 years later we are still finding ways to make it overly 
complicated and frustrating for normal users.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't use anything else, but sheeze we sure let 
projects dictate changes continually reinvent the wheel breaking things 
as they go, instead of simply providing a desktop that provides a stable 
and consistent user experience.

"Go fast and break things" isn't what it's cracked up to be. We have 
been able to restore desktop sessions for 25+ year with a simple click 
of a checkbox. Until the next great thing can do that too, it's not 
ready to be pushed as the default until these things are worked out.

-- 
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.