Re: [oS-EN] Laptop fails to recover from hibernation, hard locks on black display

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From: "Carlos E. R." <[email protected]>
To: oS-EN <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [oS-EN] Laptop fails to recover from hibernation, hard locks on
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 2026-08-03 04:24, Lew Wolfgang
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite"
      cite=3D"mid:[email protected]">O=
n
      8/2/26 2:06 PM, Carlos E. R. via openSUSE Users wrote:
      <br>
      <blockquote type=3D"cite">If it does hang during the procedure,
        well, you are really fucked, machine lost. Which is why I do not
        happily apply them.
        <br>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      The laptop is still working, correct?=C2=A0 I tried the same thing =
on a
      ThinkPad
      <br>
      here and it wouldn't apply any updates because the battery is
      dead.=C2=A0<br>
    </blockquote>
    <p>It did update "something" but not the BIOS. However, today it did
      not crash on awakening.</p>
    <blockquote>
      <pre>Devices with the latest available firmware version:
 =E2=80=A2 KBG5AZNT1T02 LA KIOXIA
 =E2=80=A2 Prometheus
 =E2=80=A2 UEFI dbx
=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=
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=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80
Devices that were not updated correctly:
<b> =E2=80=A2 System Firmware (0.1.17 =E2=86=92 0.1.39)			BIOS</b>
Devices that have been updated successfully:
 =E2=80=A2 KBG5AZNT1T02 LA KIOXIA (1107ANLA =E2=86=92 1110ANLA)		hard dis=
k
 =E2=80=A2 KEK CA (2011 =E2=86=92 2023)					???
 =E2=80=A2 Prometheus (10.01.3273255 =E2=86=92 10.01.3478575)		???
 =E2=80=A2 UEFI dbx (20220801 =E2=86=92 20260402)			???</pre>
      <p><br>
      </p>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite"
      cite=3D"mid:[email protected]"><=
br>
      Mr Chat has this to say about it:
      <br>
      <br>
      "There's an old systems administration principle that has served
      many
      <br>
      people well:"
      <br>
      <br>
      ""Every firmware update has two possible outcomes: no visible
      improvement,
      <br>
      or a new problem.""=C2=A0<br>
    </blockquote>
    Heh.
    <blockquote type=3D"cite"
      cite=3D"mid:[email protected]"><=
br>
      "That's obviously an exaggeration, but it captures an important
      point: firmware
      <br>
      updates carry more risk than ordinary software updates because
      they modify
      <br>
      persistent code that initializes the hardware."
      <br>
      <br>
      He then offered this gem of wisdom:
      <br>
      <br>
      "So I think your maxim deserves to be preserved:"
      <br>
      <br>
      =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wolfgang's First Law of Firmware:
      <br>
      =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Leave well enough alone."
      <br>
      <br>
      "It's not a universal rule=E2=80=94security-critical firmware updat=
es are
      sometimes
      <br>
      essential=E2=80=94but for stable, non-mission-critical hardware wit=
h no
      known
      <br>
      issues, it's often the pragmatic choice."
      <br>
      <br>
      Mr Chat is my new best friend.
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>A tiny gadget in my car is bricked, perhaps from an auto-update.
      A Motorola M1. I had to buy an M2, maybe more luck.</p>
    <pre class=3D"moz-signature" cols=3D"72">--=20
Cheers / Saludos,
              =20
		Carlos E. R.

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