Re: Re: [opensuse-arm] [ml-admin] Merging the architecture lists to opensuse-arch

On Thu, October 27, 2011 9:44 am, Richard (MQ) wrote:
> On 26/10/11 19:19, Joop Boonen wrote:
>> On Wed, October 26, 2011 3:25 pm, Andreas F=E4rber wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Am 26.10.2011 15:04, schrieb Henne Vogelsang:
>>>> On 26.10.2011 14:58, Adrian Schr=F6ter wrote:
>>>>> Am Mittwoch, 26. Oktober 2011, 14:29:57 schrieb Henne Vogelsang:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we are currently trying to reduce the amount of communication
>>>>>> channels
>>>>>> we provide. Because of this I would like to merge the 4 architectu=
re
>>>>>> lists into one list called opensuse-arch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If nobody objects until the 15th of November 12:00 UTC I will merg=
e
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> lists. You don't have to do anything except rewriting your filter =
if
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> use one.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would definitive unsubscribe from such a list if the majority of
>>>>> mails is
>>>>> not interessting for me.
>>>>
>>>> The ppc, amd64 and ia64 lists didn't have any traffic in 2010 and
>>>> 2011.
>>>> I would like to have some point for people to go for non x86
>>>> architecture specific stuff.
>>>
>>> There was some recent activity to revive ppc openSUSE, so if arm stay=
s
>>> ppc should probably stay as well.
>>> amd64 is mainstream now, so that's different I guess.
>>>
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> I think it's best to have separate mailing lists for different
>> architectures.
>>
>> I think traffic wise it also safes bandwidth. Only people that are
>> interested in a specific mailing list  will get this mail and not
>> traffic
>> they don't want.
>>
>> The ppc mailing list will be very interesting again when the AmigaOne
>> X1000 and Netbook will be released.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmigaOne_X1000
>> http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=3D781936
>> If this ends up in an active mailing list where also ARM resides it's
>> difficult to filter, I'm subscribed to both.
>
> If / when the AmigaOne X1000 arrives there will certainly be a new PPC
> platform, but whether we can persuade the community to re-start the PPC
> version of openSuSE Linux is another matter entirely. FWIW, the argumen=
t
> for dropping it a few years back was that the usage had dwindled to
> insignificant numbers (ISTR around 20 downloads / month) - I couldn't
> really argue with that.
>
> My expectation is that there won't be another official PPC version at
> all, though maybe we'll have enough momentum for an unofficial one - in
> which case retention of this list will be vindicated. It all depends on
> whether the machine is ever launched - time will tell.
>
> Meantime a merged list seems to me to be the wrong way to go: keep list=
s
> that are active or might reasonably be expected to become so and kill
> the others, effectively merging into -project and -factory.

Why not be the distro that also invites people who want to try other
distro's?
If you look at other distro's they are more inviting for people who want
to try other distro's.
http://lists.debian.org/ports.html
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Why not even add a opensuse-mips mailing-list for people in for instance
China who would like to work on a Loongson/Godson port.
I think this will pull more hardware gurus to our distro.

I think our current limiting approach set us behind other distro's on
supported archs. This is something we see now in the arm port. This might
happen again when another important architecture would appear.

I think we should get rid of the opensuse-amd86 mailing-list as it's x86.

One other thing I also don't understand is. WE currently build all ppc
packages as Factory. Why don't we also build a the iso's for the current
version, with the extra label unstable (so 12.1-unstable-ppc).

Now a newbie that is interested in openSuSE on his old Mac won't be able
to install openSuSE ppc due to the lack of a DVD. And therefor will move
on to another distro.


>
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> Richard (MQ)
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Regards,

Joop.

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