Re: Re: A patch added to mozc by submit-request 114205

Weng Xuetian wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Marguerite Su<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> 2012/4/18 Fuminobu TAKEYAMA<[email protected]>:

>>> Anyway, I would like to roll back for now because mozc is now really essential
>>> package for Japanese users.
>>> If the patch is the best solution and users need fcitx support,
>>> shall we add the patch again?
>>>
>>
>> Fcitx-mozc is also essential for some group of fcitx Japanese users. I
>> think as packagers we have no obvious reason to drop a successful and
>> well-maintained feature. by adding it, fcitx OBS maintainers will also
>> have to maintain mozc, there're 4 active maintainers on OBS,
>> personally I think it's good to add maintianers to such a essential
>> package.
>>
>> openSUSE is the best distro that fcitx supports. fcitx developers are
>> also on OBS( home:csslayer:fcitx* ). so there's no need to worry the
>> unmaintained thing that early. it really hurts someone's feeling.

One thing I concern is, whether you fcitx guys have tested / will test 
the patched mozc packages in combination with ibus as well or not. If 
not, testing phase might be needed before release, because most Japanese 
users use mozc in combination with ibus ATM.

> Hi,
> I'm one of the fcitx developer.
>
> For your question:
> Yes, fcitx will release new patch against every new mozc release, it's
> supported by fcitx upstream.
>
> There is several reason that I can't and don't want to make fcitx-mozc upstream.
> 1. mozc is not open developed, though it's open source.

You are right. IIRC, mozc developers only consist of Google employees 
and they won't adopt any patches from third parties.

> 2. different release schedule might be conflict with each other, the
> best solution from my point of view is develop outside mozc.
> 3. mozc will not become a standalone library in near future (Though I
> tried to ask them to do so).

I'm also using mozc and think it is the best IM for Japanese users now. 
However, I haven't been so positive about making mozc default IM engine 
for Japanese due to above things.

> For the patch, it only adds new file, and will not break any existing things.

Then, let's test whether the patched packages will work well or not even 
with ibus and scim anyway.

> For other distribution, debian and fedora, also include uim-mozc,
> which is not mozc upstream too. Add fcitx-mozc for debian is also on
> the way. They also use the patch in order to get uim compiled, that's
> another reason that I choose to release patch.
>
> For potential users, I don't want to talk about this too much, but
> there are request on Fcitx issue list, for adding Japanese support,
> and anthy development it is said that have moved to mozc, and mozc it
> much more easy to develop (Even must use some special buildsystem).

Thanks for your efforts.

Best,

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