Re: status of IBus integration into 13.1

On Sunday, October 27, 2013 08:10:08 PM Marguerite Su Wrote:
> Hi, friends,
> 
> > "Typed password on the GNOME lock screen is not hidden if IBus is active"
> > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847718
> 
> You mean, when you lock screen and input password to get back, the input
> field just shows the password itself instead of "********", is that the
> case?
> 
> If so...you don't need anyone to confirm. it is a security flaw.
> 
> I'm now taking a look of the commit you mentioned. maybe later I'll
> start monkey coding again...
> 
> And I suggest we just submit the fix directly to factory and ask coolo
> to copy it (RC2 will be released on Thursday next week, any _leaf_ SR
> before Monday will be in)
> 
> >> In Japan, the review of Ubuntu 13.10 is awful because it was shipped with
> >> many IBus 1.5 usability problems.
> > 
> > I'm afraid that only few people are happy with the migration of IBUS
> > on GNOME so far, mostly because of the unstability of IBUS 1.5
> > itself.  IBUS 1.4 was nice and smooth, but 1.5 is far below that
> > quality.
> 
> I'm afraid...*buntu + IBus will be everyone's worst nightmare forever.
> 
> 1. *buntu didn't test as much as we do...they just see if their
> artwork works by raw eyes. They can't even do GNOME well.
> 
> 2. IBus itself has been Fedora oriented or even Chrome OS oriented for
> a long time. RH people put too much hope on it.
> 
> 3. And IBus maintainer for U doesn't even have time to care it. He now
> has been hired by Canonical full-time (Although he just went to
> university), working as a...well..."commercial support staff for
> fcitx" for "Ubuntu kylin", but most of the times he's working on
> "rejecting Unity crap C people made" to "guard free software
> territory" to "prevent those bad commits from ruining upstream
> libraries".
> 
> So as I said a long time ago...man, you made a wrong comparison: In
> cases involving IBus, we should follow Fedora instead of Ubuntu...you
> could just ignore feedbacks from Ubuntu...actually Ubuntu itself has
> been deteriorating rapidly...most of its problems don't even exist on
> other distributions...
> 
> 
> 
> PS: can you please update
> https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Major_features ? add a paragraph that
> we have been migrating to IBus 1.5 together with GNOME 3.10, and
> mention all the efforts you have made...I don't know exactly what you
> did...
> 
> 
> Marguerite
Actually I don't see any "hiding" fix could make it work. Can you type the 
character you want with preedit or candidate shown in ****. Hide only preedit? 
or also hide candidate? None of them works for CJK user.

BTW, I don't think a "Unicode" Password make much sense. You can't even use 
input method in many case. Say if you use a Japanese Input method and set your 
password, then how can you ever get login into your tty? All input method 
solution (fbterm, and so on), need to be used after login into the tty.

And if you set a website with some unicode password, you might have trouble 
login into it on your mobile phone. (For example, android doesn't let you to 
use non-Ascii password with default keyboard implementation). The reality 
doesn't allow you to use non-ascii password in so many case. (And does the 
website server can process it correctly?)

Regards,
Xuetian Weng

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