Re: Does our xim process need an update?

在 2015年07月26日 15:37, Fuminobu TAKEYAMA 写道:
> I've understood your opinion.
>
> We have started to discuss technical problems to realize our idea
> including your "manually selecting IM name".
>
>
>  > On this point, the default settings should be "auto select depending
>  > on the current locale"
>
> This means that we still need "auto select" to allow users to use
> some IMs before selecting IM and restarting at the first login.
>
> If it is acceptable that users need to restart at the first login to use
> IMs, I think "auto select" is not necessary.
>
> # Of course, we must provide a mechanism to ask which IM the user wants
> to use.
>
> Fuminobu Takeyama

I want to say:
1, allow users to use some IMs before selecting IM at the first login is 
useful.
2, The "auto select" is not necessary;
3,  We must provide a mechanism to ask which IM the user wants.

I think there are 2 ways to ask our costomer:
1, gnome-initial-setup ( l don't get the reason why we deprecate, I 
don't find the reason in ML or any other docs.)
Or create another program to take the position.
2, Create a selection table on GDM. it will call chameleon tongue's 
desktop file later when customer successfully login.

Qiang Zhao

 > to use.
>
> On 2015年07月23日 20:40, Qiang Zhao wrote:
>>  > On this point, the default settings should be "auto select
>> depending on
>>  > the current locale"
>>  > so far.
>>
>> Sorry, I  think I didn't express my thought very clearly,  See the
>> previous discussion:
>>
>> Qiang:
>>  > 3, Select the default IM framework base language(current locale) is
>> useless in my opinion,
>>  >      So I think select-im only accept an IM name parameter, and set
>> for current user is enough.
>>  >      also, no need to divide in locale.d sub-folders. See my previous
>> email.
>>
>> Takashi
>>  > For IM "frameworks", it makes little sense to limit per locale,
>>  > indeed.  Most of IM frameworks are locale-agnostic.  Rather their
>>  > input method (engine) is specific to locale.  e.g. only ibus or fcitx
>>  > package is installed without the engine like ibus-mozc, it's almost
>>  > useless.
>>  >
>>  > A related question is whether we should mandate the IM framework for
>>  > all locales.  If user doesn't need more than XKB, why another layer
>>  > should be there to make things complicated?
>>
>> Qiang:
>>  > On the other hand,
>> -  We still don't know which customer doesn't need more than XKB.
>> + We still don't know which customer only need XKB.
>>  > So I think the better solution is to make an option on
>>  > chameleon-tongue/profile.d
>>  > of XKB(No IM Frame work but only XKB).
>> + At the same time, abandon "auto select depending on  the current
>> locale"
>>  > Please notice that even we choose by locales, it  will not always be
>> right.
>>
>> Takashi:
>>  > Right.  Currently "none" corresponds to XKB, as XKB is always there as
>>  > default on X.
>>
>>
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