Re: scim/skim question

Hello,

Mike FABIAN wrote:
>>In the skim configuration dialog I can enter keyboard shortcuts to
>>enable/disable scim and to change to the next input, but they don't seem
>>to be effective.
>>    
>Did you click on "Reload config"?
>  
I've played a bit around, especially with the input methods since they
are easier to see.
(I use kconfig and scim-panel-kde.)
Setting the values and clicking Ok, Apply does not change anything.
Running now scim-config-agent --reload, reloads the modules but doesn't
change anything menu wise in skim.
Then I tried to restart skim. There is _no_ option in the kicker applet
nor in the scim configation dialog. What I had to do was: (a) adding the
reload icon to the symbol bar and (b) enable scim. Then I could click on
the reload bar which caused skim to crash and prevented any further
keystroke.

Something similar happens if I dare to click on Exit in the kicker app.

>   scim-config-agent -s /Hotkeys/FrontEnd/Trigger=Control+Alt+Shift+space
>   scim-config-agent --reload
>  
tob@tux:~> scim-config-agent -s
/Hotkeys/FrontEnd/Trigger=Control+Alt+Shift+space
Set data success.
tob@tux:~> scim-config-agent --reload
Configuration reload request has been sent to the running scim.
tob@tux:~> scim-config-agent -g /Hotkeys/FrontEnd/Trigger
Control+Alt+Shift+space


Hmm, ctrl-space still activates the mode, but shift-alt-space does now
as well; but the skim config had still the old option (ctrl-space and
shift-space, the latter never worked for me). (Changed that but didn't
hit reload 'cause I don't want to restart X11.)


ps shows by the way these processes:
skim
/usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-helper-manager
/usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher -d -c kconfig -e all -f socket --no-stay
/usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher -d -c socket -e socket -f x11

>Maybe it should be allowed to disable keybindings by setting them to
>empty? Zhe Su, what do you think?
>  
Hmm, better would be some methode to disable it which leaves the keys
untouched.

>Looks like you need to reload the config.
>  
Well, does not seem to work; but I actually didn't try reload in skim ...

>>Question of the complete novice in Chinese: Next to the input parameter
>>field I see with "intelligent pinyin" a button labeled "" and three
>>other symbols still unknown to me. What is ment by those?
>>    
>The symbol which looks like a crescent moon toggles between full width
>and half width. You can use that for example to write full with 
>. The next button to the right which shows a period and a comma
>toggles between the full width and the half width forms for
>punctuation.
>  
Well, I actually ment what happens when you click on the "" button and
toggle it. But thanks to make me fully understand how half/full symbols
work.

>>I figured out that, e.g., unicode works by entering the entering
>>the hex code of the character, but what means "unicode", "utf-8",
>>    
>No, the 4 digit Unicode code point, i.e. UCS2 (=UTF-16 in the BMP).
>  
Well, I ment the hexencoded number shown in the unicode charts at
http://www.unicode.org/charts/ since I saw somewhere the decimal version
of it (Word or OpenOffice, I forgot).

>>"de" next to it?
>>    
>"de" next to what?
>  

I don't see it in the moment, maybe it was the gnome version which I
think I had at one point (I think I clicked exit in the kicker app and
then I had suddenly two kicker apps, one of which was seemingly the
gnome version.')


Tobias

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