Re: [suse-oracle] Question regarding ASM on SLES 11

Werner Flamme <[email protected]> Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:42:02 +0200
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Vladimir Barac [05.09.2011 09:00]:
> What kind of problems with OCFS2?

Extreme high load (>600) when a bad sector is found on a volume (causing
the nodes to timeout every attempt to log in), sporadic node reboots
(especially the RAC nodes, not the SAP nodes), interconnect problems in
the OCFS2 network (the net admins never allowed a switch problem as a
reason).

When a bad sector is found, you'll never find out where it is from. At
least we don't.

Maybe it's because we use ASM as well as OCFS2, we don't know.
Everything went much more stable when the db admins discoverd huge pages
and the value of higher timeouts...

I use OCFS2 (1.2) for my SAP nodes for a longer time now, and I had
hardly any error. Maybe because it were only 3 nodes (all in one rack),
and now we have about 40 (VMWare and physical, different racks,
different switches).

It is hard to debug when you have other tasks to do in parallel :-\

Regards,
Werner

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Werner Flamme
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:59 AM
> To: suse-oracle ML
> Subject: Re: [suse-oracle] Question regarding ASM on SLES 11
> 
> Vladimir Barac [05.09.2011 07:47]:
>> Good morning
> 
>> Why bothering with ASM?
> 
>> If on linux, use OCFS2. It really works fine.
> 
>> ASM adds a bit of complexity, and removes flexibility.
> 
>> SAP support is right, ASM is under Oracle's support. 
> 
>> We are running OCFS2, as I mentioned before, for our SAPs here. Heavy load, really heavy load and no issues so far. 
> 
> Vladimir,
> 
> we use OCFS2 right now. But it is highly discouraged by Oracle, to use
> OCFS2 and ASM in parallel. And on the RAC, there are about 20 non-SAP
> databases running on ASM, so...
> 
> Besides, every now and then we have problems with OCFS2 (some of them on
> the ocfs2 mailing list ;-)), so our db team wants to switch to ASM. And
> since SAP allows ASM, I'm out of arguments.
> 
> I'd prefer SAP db anyway ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> Werner
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Werner Flamme
>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:37 PM
>> To: suse-oracle ML
>> Subject: [suse-oracle] Question regarding ASM on SLES 11
> 
>> Hi everyone,
> 
>> we want to update our Oracle RAC 11.1 (2 nodes, running with Oracle
>> Linux 5.x) to Oracle RAC 11.2.0.2.
> 
>> Afterwards, we plan to migrate our SAP databases to ASM. Since we have
>> no experience with ASM, there are some questions.
> 
>> 1) when our DB runs inside ASM on the RAC nodes, do I have to install
>> ASM on the SAP servers (SLES 11 SP1) too? If yes, there are the SLES
>> packages oracleasm and oracleasm-kmp-$flavor, are these enough?
> 
>> 2) Can I symlink a file outside ASM to a file inside ASM?
> 
>> 3) Is it correct that we can't use ASM and OCFS2 simultaneously? At
>> least, not on the RAC nodes?
> 
>> Fucking SAP support says that these questions are not theirs to answer.
>> Can someone please help me?
> 
>> Regards,
>> Werner
> 
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