Re: [opensuse-project] Science and Education repos/ Scientific packages

On 16 September 2010 20:44, Greg Freemyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Alin Marin Elena <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thursday 16 September 2010 19:49:26 Thomas Hertweck wrote:
>>> On 16/09/10 11:17, Alin Marin Elena wrote:
>>> > [...]
>>> > First I would like to know what is the Education repo and what is the
>>> > science repo..
>>> > which of them would be the best place to push scientific packages.
>>>
>>> Could you give examples of what you would typically classify as
>>> "scientific packages"? Tools like "octave", "gnuplot" etc are part
>>> of the standard distribution as far as I know. These are tools that
>>> I would classify as "general purpose science tools".
>> I will give you example of only few packages from my immediate area of
>> research. They may look obscure to you and a lot of other people but keep in
>> mind that linux distros are used almost exclusively in science research labs.
>> One of the point that weighs a lot in what distro is installed by the admins
>> is the availability of these obscure packages...
>>
>> cp2k,gromacs,octopus, abinit, alps and the list can continue and if on top of
>> this you add that they come in 4 flavours usually (serial, mpi, openmp and
>> mpi/openmp). You can easily harvest the list of packages opensource installed
>> on different supercomputing sites.
>>
>> Alin
>
> Alin,
>
> You can look for yourself at: http://software.opensuse.org/search
>
> Here is the list for gromacs
> http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=gromacs&baseproject=openSUSE%3A11.3&lang=en&exclude_filter=home%3A&exclude_debug=true
>
> You can see for 11.3 it is part of the main distribution and it is in
> the education repo.
>
> Unfortunately the rest of the packages in your list don't seem to be
> in the OBS.  (I did not search home dirs).
>
> openSUSE is a very open distro.  If you or anyone else wants to get a
> OBS account they can build the various packages you find of interest.
> Then push them up to an appropriate repo.
>
> I'm not sure if the education repo is the right one, or if a science
> repo should be created.
>
> Creating a repo is a simple matter of filing a bugzilla requesting one
> iirc.  The more difficult task is building all the packages and
> pushing them into the repo(s).  But again all of the above can be down
> by anyone.
>
> Greg
>
Greg,

a science repo exists already so no need to create it

what I want is to bring it alive... and useful for scientists.
freeze cycles that govern distro and education make them irrelevant
for the scientific community.
some packages have to be updated pretty often due to addition of new
features or fixes of bugs.

the scientific computational community is not a big one in numbers...
but is a community in which linux is predominant and unfortunately is
not opensuse...

if opensuse wants to make itself relevant at desk level for scientists
providing a rich and up to date science repo is crucial.

on gromacs the version offered is 3.3.1 the current version is 4.5.1.
also only sequential version is offered.

have you ever tried to push anything to the science repo?

Alin



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